OT-Killing Pop-ups as a webmaster

"Jay Honeck" writes:

In wideangle work, and especially in architectural photography, you
need to get *really* anal about setting the camera level (or learn how
to correct it later). I've actually got a level I can put in my
"flash" shoe; but most of the time I just line up the edges of the
frame with various vertical lines, and get it level enough that way.

Interesting. Photos that Mary takes are always (and I mean ALWAYS) three
degrees "off" to one side or the other. Using Photoshop I always have to
"rotate" the photo back to level.

The next step after that is to learn how to correct for tilts
*forward* and *backwards* (which cause parallel vertical lines to
converge or diverge).

We figure it's something to do with her eyes. (Probably why she can't hit a
baseball, either...)

Could well be.

Lots of the photos really need brightness and contrast adjustment,
too. And I just noticed, looking at photos of the Red Baron suite,
that you seem to be somehow using 300k for a quality of image I can
generally provide with only 60k; that would make a *big* difference to
people on dial-up connections. (And those photos would really benefit
from being shot level, too.)

Yeah, I've learned a lot about down-sizing photos since then. Take a gander
at the Amelia Earhart Suite, and see if the photos aren't more properly
sized?

If anything, they're a bit *larger* than the ones I complained about
earlier. (Not counting the one of the newspaper article; I haven't
played with it, to retain legibility that could need to be rather
large). 367KB to 600KB.

Wow. The one labeled "The bedroom in natural sunlight" (Queen bed in
suite.jpg) is 1.3MB, and still has the EXIF information in it (I see
you shot it at 1/20 second at f2.8 with a Canon S100 :-)). It's also
1600x1200 pixels, not resized to a reasonable screen size; I'd suspect
it of being the camera original file, except that the EXIF info says
Photoshop 7 has been at it.

Maybe the files on the web site (for the Emelia Earhart suite) are not
the ones you think are there?
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Jay Honeck wrote:

I don't mean to sound rude, but if the sites are invisible to you because of
YOUR choice of browser, how is this anyone's problem but yours?

It's *your* problem if your site is one of the invisible ones and you're trying
to attract customers. Which your site is, and which you are.

So I'll stay at hotels that use standard HTML for their web sites, rent from car
agencies that use standard HTML, etc.

So, ok, I know you and your hotel, Jay. But when I'm shopping for a place to
stay for vacation in (say) Cosby, TN, and the site comes up blank (as one of
your pages did), I don't hit "reload", I go on to the next site in the Yahoo
list. And I'll never come back.

George Patterson
The actions taken by the New Hampshire Episcopalians (ie. inducting a gay
bishop) are an affront to Christians everywhere. I am just thankful that
the church's founder, Henry VIII, and his wife Catherine of Aragon, and his
wife Anne Boleyn, and his wife Jane Seymour, and his wife Anne of Cleves,
and his wife Katherine Howard, and his wife Catherine Parr are no longer
here to suffer through this assault on traditional Christian marriages.

It's *your* problem if your site is one of the invisible ones and you're
trying
to attract customers. Which your site is, and which you are.

So I'll stay at hotels that use standard HTML for their web sites, rent
from car
agencies that use standard HTML, etc.

George, please see http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp ,
which show browser use statistics.

As you can see, Microsoft browsers are used by 97% of all internet users.

IMHO, for better or worse, that's what's called "game, set, and match" for
Microsoft.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

So, ok, I know you and your hotel, Jay. But when I'm shopping for a place
to
stay for vacation in (say) Cosby, TN, and the site comes up blank (as one
of
your pages did), I don't hit "reload", I go on to the next site in the
Yahoo
list. And I'll never come back.

George Patterson
The actions taken by the New Hampshire Episcopalians (ie. inducting a
gay
bishop) are an affront to Christians everywhere. I am just thankful
that
the church's founder, Henry VIII, and his wife Catherine of Aragon,
and his
wife Anne Boleyn, and his wife Jane Seymour, and his wife Anne of
Cleves,
and his wife Katherine Howard, and his wife Catherine Parr are no
longer
here to suffer through this assault on traditional Christian
marriages.

Jay Honeck wrote:

As you can see, Microsoft browsers are used by 97% of all internet users.

Jay, I don't give a damn. And I DON'T shop at places that use this sort of
argument. *I* use the browser I damn well want to, and I don't care if the whole
****ing world uses something else. YOUR job is to cater to ME, not the other
way around.

And, yes, this is one of my hot buttons. You can have your hat back if you want
it.

George Patterson
The actions taken by the New Hampshire Episcopalians (ie. inducting a gay
bishop) are an affront to Christians everywhere. I am just thankful that
the church's founder, Henry VIII, and his wife Catherine of Aragon, and his
wife Anne Boleyn, and his wife Jane Seymour, and his wife Anne of Cleves,
and his wife Katherine Howard, and his wife Catherine Parr are no longer
here to suffer through this assault on traditional Christian marriages.

And, yes, this is one of my hot buttons.

I guess!

You can have your hat back if you want
it.

No, but I may want you to wear it backwards, if you keep dishonoring the
colors like this...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 20:23:37 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

I don't mean to sound rude, but if the sites are invisible to you because of
YOUR choice of browser, how is this anyone's problem but yours?

Blaming the website, when it is clearly a limitation of your browser, is
illogical.

There are a few reasons why it is a good thing to observe HTML
standards, even if non-standard stuff displays OK on the majority of
browsers (Microsoft).

HTML is designed to be platform independent, and flexible in how it is
displayed. Some examples of people who don't use Internet Explorer
exactly the same way you do might be blind people who use software
that reads the page, people with slow connections who turn off auto
loading of images or people with older computers. Good HTML will
provide usable web pages to all these groups, bad HTML often will not.

Another point is that the search engines you are targeting probably do
not use Microsoft, and I'm sure don't use Internet Explorer to do the
indexing. If you say non-microsoft platforms are unimportant, that
includes the search engines that you were trying to target.

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Martin Hotze wrote:

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:42:41 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

... and produces another one producing more or less crap - and he is proud
of it.

Well, Martin -- I speak with hundreds of hotel guests, most (like, 99.9999%)
of whom know nothing about HTML, or any of the so-called HTML "standards" to
which you (and others) refer.


millions of flies can't be wrong! folks! eat ****!

For Dog's sake, Martin, lighten up. I happen to agree with most of what
you've said about HTML standards being a good thing, but random verbal
abuse isn't going to win any converts.

However inelegant the HTML, Jay's site follows Rule One: Content &
Information before Appearance & Elegance. There's even stuff on his
website that's interesting to those of us who aren't going to visit his
Inn!

Oh, and my "credentials": I'm a totally self-taught HTML handcoder; my
personal website is all hand-rolled & 3.2 compliant (except the inserted
ads, which I can't control). No aviation content, but check all 80+ pages
at http://wind.prohosting.com/~warbard/index.html for my HTML efforts. One
of these days I'm going to teach myself CSS2 & upgrade the site to HTML
4.x standards...

Planes are more fun, though.

And hey, if you really want to fling abuse at Jay, call him a sissy low
winger...

Brian.

In article mCgub.31924$Dw6.157267@attbi_s02, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

George, please see http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp ,
which show browser use statistics.

As you can see, Microsoft browsers are used by 97% of all internet users.

Do you realize that non-ms browsers can be configured to tell
the website that they are ms explorer? One reason this is necessary
is because there are braindead "webmasters" that *require* explorer
(e.g., check for explorer and won't service other browsers).

Note that the site states "Also be aware that many stats may
have an incomplete or faulty browser detection. It is quite common
by many web stats report programs, not to detect new browsers like
Opera and Netscape 6 or 7 from the web log." Thus, the statistics
are bogus.

--
Bob Noel

In article , John Godwin
wrote:
How about the other people here? Is it compatiable with your browser?

(1) Opera 7.20
(2) No.

(1) Netscape 7.1
(2) No.

(1) MSIE 6.0.2800.1106
(2) Yes. (Surprise)

Appears to work fine in Konqueror 3.1.0 on OpenBSD.

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Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

In article ne.com, Andrew
Gideon wrote:
The score is 98 to 2, and you still think Microsoft hasn't won the OS war?

And all attempts at manned heavier-than-air manned flight failed. Until one
didn't.

The main point is that it's the World Wide Web, not the Microsoft web.

As time goes on, the %age of websites viewed on a PC is going to
decrease - no, not to do with Linux or the open source alternatives, but
because of mobile phones. 3G and GPRS capable mobile phones running
Symbian are becoming increasingly popular at a very rapid rate. Symbian
does not use Microsoft Internet Explorer. Microsoft are NOT doing well
in the mobile market compared to the alternatives - companies like Nokia
etc. have seen what Microsoft have done to the PC manufacturers, and
don't want it to happen to them - hence the big names in the mobile
market (Nokia, Sony Erricsen, Psion etc.) settled on Symbian rather than
anything from Redmond. It's a new front in the 'OS War', potentially a
much bigger market than the PC market, and it's one that Microsoft is
doing very poorly in. Microsoft might have won the 'PC battle', but they
have by no means won the war.

It's not 'anti-MS' zealots who are buying Symbian and other non-MS
mobile phones. It's the general populace. Just like the cell phone is
replacing the fixed line, it wouldn't surprise me if most non-geeks do
their websurfing on a mobile device within 10 years, instead of a large,
expensive PC. Ignore mobile users at your peril - they may make up a
very large proportion of your page views within the next few years. It's
certainly the case here where using mobile phones for non-voice
applications is more popular than using them for voice applications!

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"