How many JSOWs does an F15E-229 carry?

Title says it all. I'm playing a flight sim, Falcon4. Recently a new
version was out. In the previous version, F15E can carry up to 8 JSOWs
(AGM154a), however in the new version it can carry only 2 JSOWs. Which is
correct? It is a big problem to me as an F15E fan.

Thanks in advance.

"Tetsuji Rai" wrote in message ws.com...
Title says it all. I'm playing a flight sim, Falcon4. Recently a new
version was out. In the previous version, F15E can carry up to 8 JSOWs
(AGM154a), however in the new version it can carry only 2 JSOWs. Which is
correct? It is a big problem to me as an F15E fan.

Thanks in advance.


5 JSOWs max, one each on the left wing pylon, left conformal (center
inboard pylon), centerline pylon, right conformal (center inboard
pylon), and right pylon.

Same thing with JDAMs or WCMDs; only those 5 stations are wired up
with the 1760 bus necessary to drop the things.

When any of these are carried on a CFT, nothing else can be carried on
the rest of that CFT's pylons, BTW, and you can mix types of smart
weapons (so can carry 2 JDAMs (my favorite, JSOWs are a pain to use),
2 WCMDs (smart CBU!), and one JSOW (pig with wings).

Of course, that's a pretty heavy load - better have a tanker to go
along with you...

Kirk
(too many hours working on the F-15E WST)

In addition, how about AGM65B/D/G or AGM130? How many these AGMs can be
loaded on a CFT?

Thanks in advance!

-Tetsuji Rai (an F15E fan)

"Kirk Stant" wrote in message
om...
5 JSOWs max, one each on the left wing pylon, left conformal (center
inboard pylon), centerline pylon, right conformal (center inboard
pylon), and right pylon.

Same thing with JDAMs or WCMDs; only those 5 stations are wired up
with the 1760 bus necessary to drop the things.

When any of these are carried on a CFT, nothing else can be carried on
the rest of that CFT's pylons, BTW, and you can mix types of smart
weapons (so can carry 2 JDAMs (my favorite, JSOWs are a pain to use),
2 WCMDs (smart CBU!), and one JSOW (pig with wings).

Of course, that's a pretty heavy load - better have a tanker to go
along with you...

Kirk
(too many hours working on the F-15E WST)

Thank you for your quick reply!!!

Then, in addition, how about AGM65B/D/G or AGM130? How many these AGMs can
be
loaded on a CFT?

Thanks in advance!!

-Tetsuji Rai (an F15E fan)

"Kirk Stant" wrote in message
om...
"Tetsuji Rai" wrote in message
ws.com...
Title says it all. I'm playing a flight sim, Falcon4. Recently a new
version was out. In the previous version, F15E can carry up to 8 JSOWs
(AGM154a), however in the new version it can carry only 2 JSOWs. Which
is
correct? It is a big problem to me as an F15E fan.

Thanks in advance.


5 JSOWs max, one each on the left wing pylon, left conformal (center
inboard pylon), centerline pylon, right conformal (center inboard
pylon), and right pylon.

Same thing with JDAMs or WCMDs; only those 5 stations are wired up
with the 1760 bus necessary to drop the things.

When any of these are carried on a CFT, nothing else can be carried on
the rest of that CFT's pylons, BTW, and you can mix types of smart
weapons (so can carry 2 JDAMs (my favorite, JSOWs are a pain to use),
2 WCMDs (smart CBU!), and one JSOW (pig with wings).

Of course, that's a pretty heavy load - better have a tanker to go
along with you...

Kirk
(too many hours working on the F-15E WST)

And can these AGMs be loaded at the centerline pylon?

"Tetsuji Rai" wrote in message
s.com...
Thank you for your quick reply!!!

Then, in addition, how about AGM65B/D/G or AGM130? How many these AGMs
can
be
loaded on a CFT?

Thanks in advance!!

-Tetsuji Rai (an F15E fan)

"Kirk Stant" wrote in message
om...
"Tetsuji Rai" wrote in message
ws.com...
Title says it all. I'm playing a flight sim, Falcon4. Recently a
new
version was out. In the previous version, F15E can carry up to 8
JSOWs
(AGM154a), however in the new version it can carry only 2 JSOWs.
Which
is
correct? It is a big problem to me as an F15E fan.

Thanks in advance.


5 JSOWs max, one each on the left wing pylon, left conformal (center
inboard pylon), centerline pylon, right conformal (center inboard
pylon), and right pylon.

Same thing with JDAMs or WCMDs; only those 5 stations are wired up
with the 1760 bus necessary to drop the things.

When any of these are carried on a CFT, nothing else can be carried on
the rest of that CFT's pylons, BTW, and you can mix types of smart
weapons (so can carry 2 JDAMs (my favorite, JSOWs are a pain to use),
2 WCMDs (smart CBU!), and one JSOW (pig with wings).

Of course, that's a pretty heavy load - better have a tanker to go
along with you...

Kirk
(too many hours working on the F-15E WST)

Kirk your comment about the JSOW being a pig, is that because it is an ugly
glider or a reference to its operation or performance as a weapon?

Chuck Wagner

"Kirk Stant" wrote in message
om...
"Tetsuji Rai" wrote in message
ws.com...
Title says it all. I'm playing a flight sim, Falcon4. Recently a new
version was out. In the previous version, F15E can carry up to 8 JSOWs
(AGM154a), however in the new version it can carry only 2 JSOWs. Which
is
correct? It is a big problem to me as an F15E fan.

Thanks in advance.


5 JSOWs max, one each on the left wing pylon, left conformal (center
inboard pylon), centerline pylon, right conformal (center inboard
pylon), and right pylon.

Same thing with JDAMs or WCMDs; only those 5 stations are wired up
with the 1760 bus necessary to drop the things.

When any of these are carried on a CFT, nothing else can be carried on
the rest of that CFT's pylons, BTW, and you can mix types of smart
weapons (so can carry 2 JDAMs (my favorite, JSOWs are a pain to use),
2 WCMDs (smart CBU!), and one JSOW (pig with wings).

Of course, that's a pretty heavy load - better have a tanker to go
along with you...

Kirk
(too many hours working on the F-15E WST)


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"Tetsuji Rai" wrote:

In addition, how about AGM65B/D/G or AGM130? How many these AGMs can be
loaded on a CFT?

Thanks in advance!


Ah, a question on my favorite PGM:-). From what I've heard, two
AGM-130's a about all a single Eagle carries. Those things are
god-auful heavy even if you do have wiring for four on the pylons.
You'll need an AXQ-14 or ZSW-1 pod on the center line station to use
them. I wonder if time in indian country is as much a consideration as
max payload. If your're using AGM-130's you're probably going after
very tough targets in very dangerous neighborhoods.

Then there's the deconfliction issue as well.

--
Dana Miller

"Charles Wagner" wrote in message ...
Kirk your comment about the JSOW being a pig, is that because it is an ugly
glider or a reference to its operation or performance as a weapon?

Chuck Wagner

Neither, and much simpler: J SOW. Sow as in pig. Get it? There is a
neat JSOW patch that shows a flying pig on it in one of the JSOW
briefings I saw.

Of course, it is also a really ugly glider, although not as bad as a
PW-5 (insider glider pilot joke, that!).

As a weapon, well, it's basically 3/4 of a can of CBU. A weapon for
special targets, obviously.

Kirk

"Tetsuji Rai" wrote in message ws.com...
In addition, how about AGM65B/D/G or AGM130? How many these AGMs can be
loaded on a CFT?

Thanks in advance!

-Tetsuji Rai (an F15E fan)

Very little chance of actually seeing AGM-65s on the F-15E, since they
can only be carried on the wing pylons, and if the preferred AGM-65G
is carried, only one on each station. Since that takes up two of the
external fuel tank stations, it't not a very good tradeoff compared to
2 JDAMs or WCMDs on the same stations. But it is an approved and
cleared weapon, and might be loaded for a specific target type.

It is possible to carry 6 of the AGM-65A, B, D, or H, 3 on each side
on LAU-88 triple rail launchers on stations 2 and 8 (the wing pylons).
AGM-65Gs are heavier, so only one can be carried on each side on a
LAU-117 single-rail launcher. AGM-65 cannot be loaded on the CFTs.

AGM-130s (and the similar GBU-15) are also only carried on stations 2
and 8; they cannot be loaded on the CFTs. When these weapons are
used, normally an AXQ-14 or ZSW-1 data link pod is carried on the
centerline station (station 5). The DLP is needed to control the
AGM-130 or GBU-15 after launch.

The F-15E is a neat fighter, lots of good systems, excellent radar,
pretty good legs, and a two man crew. Too bad we didn't build a lot
more of them!

Kirk

"Kirk Stant" wrote in message
om...

Very little chance of actually seeing AGM-65s on the F-15E, since they
can only be carried on the wing pylons, and if the preferred AGM-65G
is carried, only one on each station. Since that takes up two of the
external fuel tank stations, it't not a very good tradeoff compared to
2 JDAMs or WCMDs on the same stations. But it is an approved and
cleared weapon, and might be loaded for a specific target type.

It is possible to carry 6 of the AGM-65A, B, D, or H, 3 on each side
on LAU-88 triple rail launchers on stations 2 and 8 (the wing pylons).
AGM-65Gs are heavier, so only one can be carried on each side on a
LAU-117 single-rail launcher. AGM-65 cannot be loaded on the CFTs.

AGM-130s (and the similar GBU-15) are also only carried on stations 2
and 8; they cannot be loaded on the CFTs. When these weapons are
used, normally an AXQ-14 or ZSW-1 data link pod is carried on the
centerline station (station 5). The DLP is needed to control the
AGM-130 or GBU-15 after launch.

The F-15E is a neat fighter, lots of good systems, excellent radar,
pretty good legs, and a two man crew. Too bad we didn't build a lot
more of them!

Kirk

Thank you!!! I think I have understood it, but I need to confirm.

Reading your message and flying an F15E-229 in a simulator (F15E in Falcon4
) I've found a serious problem with it. To tell the truth I have a cdrom
set of an old F15E flight manual, which contains info on sidewinders,
sparrows, GBU24,10, BLU107, Mk84/82, some CBUs and so on. So I want to ask
additional questions.

Can AIM120s be loaded on stations 2 and 8? and two of them each? If so,
can F15e carry 8 of them at once ?(2 on stations 2,8 each and 2 on bilateral
CFTs each) And when you load 5 smart weapons, no missiles can be loaded,
right?
How many *light* JDAMs (I mean GBU-32,35) can be loaded? and where?
How many GBU-22s can be loaded? and where?
When you load 2 AGM-130s, can any other bombs or sparrows be loaded on CFTs?
I've heard AGM-130 is very heavy and its drag factor is high.

I need details for simulator.....

Thank you in advance!!

-Tetsuji Rai