I made it back

Somewhat revolutionary (for me), I actually returned to my point of
takeoff yesterday after a good cross country flight. I took the new-
ish to me NG-1 (a modified BG-12/16) out for a 300 km FAI triangle.
Had a good time, finished the task, and didn't need a retrieve. I can
see why you guys like more L's and fewer D's. Check out the final
glide. Flight report he http://soaringcafe.com/2011/06/diamond-goal/

On Jun 6, 10:55*am, Tony wrote:
Somewhat revolutionary (for me), I actually returned to my point of
takeoff yesterday after a good cross country flight. *I took the new-
ish to me NG-1 (a modified BG-12/16) out for a 300 km FAI triangle.
Had a good time, finished the task, and didn't need a retrieve. *I can
see why you guys like more L's and fewer D's. *Check out the final
glide. Flight report hehttp://soaringcafe.com/2011/06/diamond-goal/

Good on you, Tony! I believe NG-1 was built by Jerry Nedouer, we tried
for our Diamond distance flights on the same day back in 1976? From
Minden to somewhere in the Owens Valley to Hawthorne. Jerry mad it and
completed his Diamond badge. I landed short in my Duster, .......... L/
D is a relative thing.
Cheers,
JJ

Indeed

Efficiency is addictive.
Moved from Bergfalke 2-55 (1:26) to Std Cirrus (1:37) to Kestrel 19 (1:44)
The low L/D number is not the main constraint - the speed means there
are a whole new world of tasks that become possible.

Welcome to the dark side.

Getting home is sometimes less adventurous and probably less fun, but is
a whole lot more compatible with family and commitments...

So far I am scoring more than 3 to 1 on the number of times I have
fetched outlanders, vs times I have needed to be fetched. Probably
means I'm not trying hard enough.

Bruce



On 2011/06/06 7:55 PM, Tony wrote:
Somewhat revolutionary (for me), I actually returned to my point of
takeoff yesterday after a good cross country flight. I took the new-
ish to me NG-1 (a modified BG-12/16) out for a 300 km FAI triangle.
Had a good time, finished the task, and didn't need a retrieve. I can
see why you guys like more L's and fewer D's. Check out the final
glide. Flight report he http://soaringcafe.com/2011/06/diamond-goal/

--
Bruce Greeff
T59D #1771

On Jun 6, 3:20*pm, JJ Sinclair wrote:
On Jun 6, 10:55*am, Tony wrote:

Somewhat revolutionary (for me), I actually returned to my point of
takeoff yesterday after a good cross country flight. *I took the new-
ish to me NG-1 (a modified BG-12/16) out for a 300 km FAI triangle.
Had a good time, finished the task, and didn't need a retrieve. *I can
see why you guys like more L's and fewer D's. *Check out the final
glide. Flight report hehttp://soaringcafe.com/2011/06/diamond-goal/

Good on you, Tony! I believe NG-1 was built by Jerry Nedouer, we tried
for our Diamond distance flights on the same day back in 1976? From
Minden to somewhere in the Owens Valley to Hawthorne. Jerry mad it and
completed his Diamond badge. I landed short in my Duster, .......... L/
D is a relative thing.
Cheers,
JJ

JJ - yes, Jerome Niedrauer. His son Eric is still flying the Pik 20
they bought to replace the NG-1. He'll be in Wichita this fall to see
the old bird. I'll look in the logs for his diamond distance flight.
I'm pretty sure he did all his diamonds in the glider.

On Jun 6, 3:27*pm, BruceGreeff wrote:
Indeed

Efficiency is addictive.
Moved from Bergfalke 2-55 (1:26) to Std Cirrus (1:37) to Kestrel 19 (1:44)
The low L/D number is not the main constraint - the speed means there
are a whole new world of tasks that become possible.

Welcome to the dark side.

Getting home is sometimes less adventurous and probably less fun, but is
a whole lot more compatible with family and commitments...

So far I am scoring more than 3 to 1 on the number of times I have
fetched outlanders, vs times I have needed to be fetched. *Probably
means I'm not trying hard enough.

Bruce

On 2011/06/06 7:55 PM, Tony wrote:

Somewhat revolutionary (for me), I actually returned to my point of
takeoff yesterday after a good cross country flight. *I took the new-
ish to me NG-1 (a modified BG-12/16) out for a 300 km FAI triangle.
Had a good time, finished the task, and didn't need a retrieve. *I can
see why you guys like more L's and fewer D's. *Check out the final
glide. Flight report hehttp://soaringcafe.com/2011/06/diamond-goal/

--
Bruce Greeff
T59D #1771

this was my first soaring flight of the year that didn't result in a
landout. of course it was only my 4th soaring flight of the year. I
still flew about as slow on this flight as I did on my almost 300 km
out/return in the Cherokee last year. Most of that was on the upwind
leg, i was super conservative as I've learned over the years that its
hard to make progress on a task if you are sitting in a field.

On Jun 6, 5:35*pm, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Jun 6, 1:55*pm, Tony wrote:

Somewhat revolutionary (for me), I actually returned to my point of
takeoff yesterday after a good cross country flight. *I took the new-
ish to me NG-1 (a modified BG-12/16) out for a 300 km FAI triangle.
Had a good time, finished the task, and didn't need a retrieve. *I can
see why you guys like more L's and fewer D's. *Check out the final
glide. Flight report hehttp://soaringcafe.com/2011/06/diamond-goal/

Stop cheating ! Get out there and do it with the Cherokee.
See ya, Dave (who had a tough time getting home Friday)

heh Dave. Before yesterday I was determined that I was going to do
all the diamonds in my Cherokee. But man, I was so beat when I got
back I felt like I earned it. Plus I flew so darn slow that it was
very Cherokee-like speedwise So now I will just have to work on
doing a 300 km task in the Cherokee to prove it can be done (it can, i
almost did it last year).

JJ - logs show Diamond Distance June 21, 1975 from DCA (Douglas County
Airport?) to Dolomite to Hawthorne, that the one? Also see your name
in there for a few repairs in 1978, do you recall the reason they were
required?

JJ - logs show Diamond Distance June 21, 1975 from DCA (Douglas
County
Airport?) to Dolomite to Hawthorne, that the one? *Also see your name
in there for a few repairs in 1978, do you recall the reason they were
required?

You got to be kidding, I can't remember what I had for breakfast
yesterday! How can I remember a repair in 1978? Strange because Jerry
built the NG-1, so I don't know why he wouldn't repair it himself? I
moved the turnpoint to a road intersection on the north side of Owens
Lake so I could get 500K at the north end of the
valley...................it worked with a landing at Janies Ranch (the
local cat house) after working hot rocks on the Inyo's and White
mountains all the way north. A fiend who landed at Manzanar tried to
get me to join him, but I was determined. Used that trick to get back
into Bishop in a regionals, years later.
Wood is good,
JJ

On Jun 7, 8:16*am, JJ Sinclair wrote:
*JJ - logs show Diamond Distance June 21, 1975 from DCA (Douglas
County

Airport?) to Dolomite to Hawthorne, that the one? *Also see your name
in there for a few repairs in 1978, do you recall the reason they were
required?

You got to be kidding, I can't remember what I had for breakfast
yesterday! How can I remember a repair in 1978? Strange because Jerry
built the NG-1, so I don't know why he wouldn't repair it himself? I
moved the turnpoint to a road intersection on the north side of Owens
Lake so I could get 500K at the north end of the
valley...................it worked with a landing at Janies Ranch (the
local cat house) after working hot rocks on the Inyo's and White
mountains all the way north. A fiend who landed at Manzanar tried to
get me to join him, but I was determined. Used that trick to get back
into Bishop in a regionals, years later.
Wood is good,
JJ

ha but you can remember that flight from 75!

I think the repair was done after Jerry sold the bird. Its a
different signature on the flights in the log starting around 77. it
was some skin work on the fuselage and some minor repairs to the wing
skin 8" outboard on each wing (I think)

On Jun 6, 5:16*pm, Tony wrote:
On Jun 6, 3:27*pm, BruceGreeff wrote:





Indeed

Efficiency is addictive.
Moved from Bergfalke 2-55 (1:26) to Std Cirrus (1:37) to Kestrel 19 (1:44)
The low L/D number is not the main constraint - the speed means there
are a whole new world of tasks that become possible.

Welcome to the dark side.

Getting home is sometimes less adventurous and probably less fun, but is
a whole lot more compatible with family and commitments...

So far I am scoring more than 3 to 1 on the number of times I have
fetched outlanders, vs times I have needed to be fetched. *Probably
means I'm not trying hard enough.

Bruce

On 2011/06/06 7:55 PM, Tony wrote:

Somewhat revolutionary (for me), I actually returned to my point of
takeoff yesterday after a good cross country flight. *I took the new-
ish to me NG-1 (a modified BG-12/16) out for a 300 km FAI triangle.
Had a good time, finished the task, and didn't need a retrieve. *I can
see why you guys like more L's and fewer D's. *Check out the final
glide. Flight report hehttp://soaringcafe.com/2011/06/diamond-goal/

--
Bruce Greeff
T59D #1771

this was my first soaring flight of the year that didn't result in a
landout. of course it was only my 4th soaring flight of the year. *I
still flew about as slow on this flight as I did on my almost 300 km
out/return in the Cherokee last year. *Most of that was on the upwind
leg, i was super conservative as I've learned over the years that its
hard to make progress on a task if you are sitting in a field.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Tony, for some reason I thought you did your 300k last year....am I
thinking of a near miss? Bruce is right; it's the speed.
Gary Adams GA2

Gary,

Last year I did an out and almost return Diamond Goal attempt in the
Cherokee. The write up for that one is on my Cherokee II blog as well
as Soaring Cafe. Total distance on that one was a touch over 300 km
but i ended up landing 4 miles short of the starting airport at 7:30
PM. That one was a 6.5 hr flight, about the same as Sunday.
http://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-2.0...tId=1688698192

I also did a 300 km straight out flight last year for Gold Distance
http://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-2.0...tId=1618688367

Interestingly the speed I made in the Cherokee on the out and return
was about the same as I made in the NG-1 on Sunday. I bet if I was in
a Nimbus I could still average 30 mph!