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good book about prisoners of war
There was a camp in Phoenix- some of the German POWs heard that they were
not too far from the Salt River, so they put together some kind of raft and got through the wire. Imagine their disappointment at reaching the rock-strewn ditch that passes for a river in Arizona. Incidentally, they got caught. -- Jim Atkins Twentynine Palms CA USA "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx |
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David Lesher wrote:
German POW's held in the US. I recall reading the Army shipped most into the Midwest. (I know there was one camp in Sandusky OH area.) Reportedly a German POW camp located near the massive U.S. Army Sioux Ordinance Depot approximately 20 miles from Sidney, Nebraska. When WW2 started the installation provided hundreds of earthen bomb storage bunkers dotting the prairie, in addition to a vast complex of warehouses that were used throughout WW2, Korea and Vietnam. In 1967, most of the complex was turned over to area farmers/ranchers and a community college (where I received my A&P mechanic certificate in 1983). -Mike Marron |
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 04:12:30 GMT, "Jim Atkins"
wrote: There was a camp in Phoenix- some of the German POWs heard that they were not too far from the Salt River, so they put together some kind of raft and got through the wire. Imagine their disappointment at reaching the rock-strewn ditch that passes for a river in Arizona. Incidentally, they got caught. There was a POW camp for Italians just north of San Bernardino (not far from the Stringfellow Acid Pits). They only tore out the last foundation slab a couple of years ago. Back then, that was a remote location, although there's a river that goes to San Pedro eventually not too far away. Mary -- Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer "A MiG at your six is better than no MiG at all." Anonymous US fighter pilot |
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Cub Driver wrote: There was a German camp in or near Tucson. The PWs built the road up to Mt Lemmon, the improbable ski resort that burned earlier this year. all the best -- Dan Ford email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9 see the Warbird's Forum at http://www.danford.net/index.htm Vietnam | Flying Tigers | Pacific War | Brewster Buffalo | Piper Cub There was one for German POWs outside of Lawrence KS. Ruins were still in existance when I was there 83-89. Danforth Chapel, On the University Grounds, was supposedly build by POW labor. I got the feeling from what I had read about Axis POWs that they were kept mostly in small groups (50-100), spread out throughout the heartland. They provided farm labor. -- Dana Miller |
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Dana Miller wrote:
I got the feeling from what I had read about Axis POWs that they were kept mostly in small groups (50-100), spread out throughout the heartland. They provided farm labor. -- Dana Miller Some of the main camps were larger. The algona IA camp held 3000 according to their web site at http://www.pwcamp.algona.org/ They also had small camps in the 50-100 occupant range. The Algona experience is unique. One of the prisoners built a nativity scene that still exists and is shown at the county fairground. Another was held within 50 miles of a relative who had emmigrated to the US before the war. Found some of this out while shuttling my daughter as she researched her history day project. MAH |
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German POW camp was at Fort McClellan AL. There is a very nice POW cemetery
there that is visited by German families. wrote in message ... David Lesher wrote: German POW's held in the US. I recall reading the Army shipped most into the Midwest. (I know there was one camp in Sandusky OH area.) Reportedly a German POW camp located near the massive U.S. Army Sioux Ordinance Depot approximately 20 miles from Sidney, Nebraska. When WW2 started the installation provided hundreds of earthen bomb storage bunkers dotting the prairie, in addition to a vast complex of warehouses that were used throughout WW2, Korea and Vietnam. In 1967, most of the complex was turned over to area farmers/ranchers and a community college (where I received my A&P mechanic certificate in 1983). -Mike Marron |
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When the local weekly newspaper "Algona Upper Des Moines" elicited WWII veterans' stories a couple of years ago, it was inundated with the stories from German POW's who had returned to live in the Algona (Kossuth Co.) Iowa area after repatriation back to Germany. I wonder how many American and British Commonwealth troops went to live postwar in the vicinity of the camps where they'd lived as guests of the German and Japanese governments? The best book I've read on this subject is Prisoners of the Japanese, by Gavan Daws www.danford.net/daws.htm all the best -- Dan Ford email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9 see the Warbird's Forum at http://www.danford.net/index.htm Vietnam | Flying Tigers | Pacific War | Brewster Buffalo | Piper Cub |
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John Burson wrote in message ... Thirty POW camps were built in 1942 to house the onslaught of captured enemy soldiers. McClellan's POW camp was completed in 1943. By mid-1944, German POWs had become a significant part of the labor pool at Fort McClellan. In their off hours and in jobs assigned to them on post, POWs created a substantial legacy at Fort McClellan in masonry and art as well as more invisible improvements. Two hundred prisoners were detailed daily for excavation, drainage, and clearing operations on the main post; 170 were involved with food preparation; and others worked on vehicles on post. POW labor is responsible for numerous examples of stonework on Fort McClellan, including stone walls, chimneys, a patio built behind the old Recreation Center, drainage ditches, and landscaping. The carved bar at the Officer's Club (Remington Hall) and the exceptional murals which dress the club's wall are also credited to POWs. The camp at Fort McClellan not only acted as the processing center for all prisoners interned in the Alabama camps, but was the last camp to be deactivated on April A quick web search turned up a list of major camps at http://uboat.net/men/pow/pow_in_america_stats.htm (the list is long and tacked on at the bottom); the site also has a monthly census of prisoners in the system and list a peak of over 425,000 prisioners. Japanese never accounting for as much as 2% of the population after April '43.. I've read of German PWs being dropped off around California during Orange season to pick the fruit of indivual trees in peoples' yards. Later in the day, the truck would come back for'm, no guards, no escapes. I don't know if such low security was common. wrote in message ... David Lesher wrote: German POW's held in the US. I recall reading the Army shipped most into the Midwest. (I know there was one camp in Sandusky OH area.) Reportedly a German POW camp located near the massive U.S. Army Sioux Ordinance Depot approximately 20 miles from Sidney, Nebraska. When WW2 started the installation provided hundreds of earthen bomb storage bunkers dotting the prairie, in addition to a vast complex of warehouses that were used throughout WW2, Korea and Vietnam. In 1967, most of the complex was turned over to area farmers/ranchers and a community college (where I received my A&P mechanic certificate in 1983). -Mike Marron Camp Algoma, Iowa Camp Aliceville, Alabama Camp Alva, Oklahoma Camp Angel Island, California Camp Ashby, Virginia Camp Ashford, West Virginia Camp Atlanta, Nebraska Camp Atterbury, Indiana Camp Barkeley, Texas Camp Beale, California Camp Blanding, Florida Camp Bowie, Texas Camp Brady, Texas Camp Breckinridge, Kentucky Camp Butner, North Carolina Camp Campbell, Kentucky Camp Carson, Colorado Camp Chaffee, Arkansas Camp Claiborne, Louisiana Camp Clarinda, Iowa Camp Clark, Missouri Camp Clinton, Mississippi Camp Como, Mississippi Camp Concordia, Kansas Camp Cooke, California Camp Croft, South Carolina Camp Crossville, Tennessee Camp Crowder, Missouri Camp David, Maryland Camp Dermott, Arkansas Camp Douglas, Wyoming Camp Edwards, Massachusetts Camp Ellis, Illinois Camp Evelyn, Michigan Camp Fannin, Texas Camp Farragut, Idaho Camp Florence, Arizona Camp Forrest, Tennessee Camp Gordon Johnston, Florida Camp Grant, Illinois Camp Gruber, Oklahoma Camp Hale, Colorado Camp Hearne, Texas Camp Hood, Texas Camp Houlton, Maine Camp Howze, Texas Camp Hulen, Texas Camp Huntsville, Texas Camp Indianola, Nebraska Camp Jerome, Arkansas Camp Lee, Virginia Camp Livingston, Louisiana Camp Lordsburg, New Mexico Camp McAlester, Oklahoma Camp McCain, Mississippi Camp McCoy, Wisconsin Camp McLean, Texas Camp Mackall, North Carolina Camp Maxey, Texas Camp Mexia, Texas Camp Monticello, Arkansas Camp New Cumberland, Pennsylvania Camp Ogden, Utah Camp Opelika, Alabama Camp Papago Park, Arizona Camp Peary, Virginia Camp Perry, Ohio Camp Phillips, Kansas Camp Pickett, Virginia Camp Pima, Arizona Camp Polk, Lousiana Camp Popolopen, New York Camp Pryor, Oklahoma Camp Reynolds, Pennsylvania Camp Jos. T. Robinson, Arkansas Camp Roswell, New Mexico Camp Rucker, Alabama Camp Rupert, Idaho Camp Ruston, Louisiana Camp Scottsbluff, Nebraska Camp Shelby, Mississippi Camp Sibert, Alabama Camp Somerset, Maryland Camp Stewart, Georgia Camp Stockton, California Camp Sutton, North Carolina Camp Swift, Texas Camp Tonkawa, Oklahoma Camp Trinidad, Colorado Camp Van Dorn, Mississippi Camp Wallace, Texas Camp Wheeler, Georgia Camp White, Oregon Camp Wolters, Texas Fort Benjamin Harrison, Indiana Fort Benning, Georgia Fort Bliss, Texas Fort Bragg, North Carolina Fort Crockett, Texas Fort Curtis, Virginia Fort Custer, Michigan Fort Devens, Massachusetts Fort Dix, New Jersey Fort DuPont, Delaware Fort Eustis, Virginia Fort Gordon, Georgia Fort Greely, Colorado Fort Jackson, South Carolina Fort Kearny, Rhode Island Fort Knox, Kentucky Fort Leavenworth, Kansas Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri Fort Lewis, Washington Fort McClellan, Alabama Fort Meade, Maryland Fort Niagara, New York Fort Oglethorpe, Georgia Fort Ord, California Fort Patrick Henry, Virginia Fort Reno, Oklahoma Fort Riley, Kansas Fort Robinson, Nebraska Fort D. A. Russell, Texas Fort Sam Houston, Texas Fort Sheridan, Illinois Fort Sill, Oklahoma Fort F. E. Warren, Wyoming Edgewood Arsenal, Maryland Eglin Army Air Field, Florida Glennan General Hospital, Oklahoma Halloran General Hospital, New York Hampton Roads Port of Embarkation, Virginia Indiantown Gap Military Reservation, Pennsylvania Holabird Signal Depot, Maryland McCloskey General Hospital, Texas Memphis General Depot, Tennessee New Orleans Port of Embarkation, Louisiana Olmsted Field, Pennsylvania Pine Bluff Arsenal, Arkansas Richmond ASF Depot, Virginia Tobyhanna Military Reservation, Pennsylvania Westover Field, Massachusetts |
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John Burson wrote in message ... Thirty POW camps were built in 1942 to house the onslaught of captured enemy soldiers. McClellan's POW camp was completed in 1943. By mid-1944, German POWs had become a significant part of the labor pool at Fort McClellan. In their off hours and in jobs assigned to them on post, POWs created a substantial legacy at Fort McClellan in masonry and art as well as more invisible improvements. Two hundred prisoners were detailed daily for excavation, drainage, and clearing operations on the main post; 170 were involved with food preparation; and others worked on vehicles on post. POW labor is responsible for numerous examples of stonework on Fort McClellan, including stone walls, chimneys, a patio built behind the old Recreation Center, drainage ditches, and landscaping. The carved bar at the Officer's Club (Remington Hall) and the exceptional murals which dress the club's wall are also credited to POWs. The camp at Fort McClellan not only acted as the processing center for all prisoners interned in the Alabama camps, but was the last camp to be deactivated on April A quick web search turned up a list of major camps at http://uboat.net/men/pow/pow_in_america_stats.htm (the list is long and tacked on at the bottom); the site also has a monthly census of prisoners in the system and list a peak of over 425,000 prisioners. Japanese never accounting for as much as 2% of the population after April '43.. I've read of German PWs being dropped off around California during Orange season to pick the fruit of indivual trees in peoples' yards. Later in the day, the truck would come back for'm, no guards, no escapes. I don't know if such low security was common. wrote in message ... David Lesher wrote: German POW's held in the US. I recall reading the Army shipped most into the Midwest. (I know there was one camp in Sandusky OH area.) Reportedly a German POW camp located near the massive U.S. Army Sioux Ordinance Depot approximately 20 miles from Sidney, Nebraska. When WW2 started the installation provided hundreds of earthen bomb storage bunkers dotting the prairie, in addition to a vast complex of warehouses that were used throughout WW2, Korea and Vietnam. In 1967, most of the complex was turned over to area farmers/ranchers and a community college (where I received my A&P mechanic certificate in 1983). -Mike Marron Camp Algoma, Iowa Camp Aliceville, Alabama Camp Alva, Oklahoma Camp Angel Island, California Camp Ashby, Virginia Camp Ashford, West Virginia Camp Atlanta, Nebraska Camp Atterbury, Indiana Camp Barkeley, Texas Camp Beale, California Camp Blanding, Florida Camp Bowie, Texas Camp Brady, Texas Camp Breckinridge, Kentucky Camp Butner, North Carolina Camp Campbell, Kentucky Camp Carson, Colorado Camp Chaffee, Arkansas Camp Claiborne, Louisiana Camp Clarinda, Iowa Camp Clark, Missouri Camp Clinton, Mississippi Camp Como, Mississippi Camp Concordia, Kansas Camp Cooke, California Camp Croft, South Carolina Camp Crossville, Tennessee Camp Crowder, Missouri Camp David, Maryland Camp Dermott, Arkansas Camp Douglas, Wyoming Camp Edwards, Massachusetts Camp Ellis, Illinois Camp Evelyn, Michigan Camp Fannin, Texas Camp Farragut, Idaho Camp Florence, Arizona Camp Forrest, Tennessee Camp Gordon Johnston, Florida Camp Grant, Illinois Camp Gruber, Oklahoma Camp Hale, Colorado Camp Hearne, Texas Camp Hood, Texas Camp Houlton, Maine Camp Howze, Texas Camp Hulen, Texas Camp Huntsville, Texas Camp Indianola, Nebraska Camp Jerome, Arkansas Camp Lee, Virginia Camp Livingston, Louisiana Camp Lordsburg, New Mexico Camp McAlester, Oklahoma Camp McCain, Mississippi Camp McCoy, Wisconsin Camp McLean, Texas Camp Mackall, North Carolina Camp Maxey, Texas Camp Mexia, Texas Camp Monticello, Arkansas Camp New Cumberland, Pennsylvania Camp Ogden, Utah Camp Opelika, Alabama Camp Papago Park, Arizona Camp Peary, Virginia Camp Perry, Ohio Camp Phillips, Kansas Camp Pickett, Virginia Camp Pima, Arizona Camp Polk, Lousiana Camp Popolopen, New York Camp Pryor, Oklahoma Camp Reynolds, Pennsylvania Camp Jos. 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Robinson, Arkansas Camp Roswell, New Mexico Camp Rucker, Alabama Camp Rupert, Idaho Camp Ruston, Louisiana Camp Scottsbluff, Nebraska Camp Shelby, Mississippi Camp Sibert, Alabama Camp Somerset, Maryland Camp Stewart, Georgia Camp Stockton, California Camp Sutton, North Carolina Camp Swift, Texas Camp Tonkawa, Oklahoma Camp Trinidad, Colorado Camp Van Dorn, Mississippi Camp Wallace, Texas Camp Wheeler, Georgia Camp White, Oregon Camp Wolters, Texas Fort Benjamin Harrison, Indiana Fort Benning, Georgia Fort Bliss, Texas Fort Bragg, North Carolina Fort Crockett, Texas Fort Curtis, Virginia Fort Custer, Michigan Fort Devens, Massachusetts Fort Dix, New Jersey Fort DuPont, Delaware Fort Eustis, Virginia Fort Gordon, Georgia Fort Greely, Colorado Fort Jackson, South Carolina Fort Kearny, Rhode Island Fort Knox, Kentucky Fort Leavenworth, Kansas Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri Fort Lewis, Washington Fort McClellan, Alabama Fort Meade, Maryland Fort Niagara, New York Fort Oglethorpe, Georgia Fort Ord, California Fort Patrick Henry, Virginia Fort Reno, Oklahoma Fort Riley, Kansas Fort Robinson, Nebraska Fort D. A. Russell, Texas Fort Sam Houston, Texas Fort Sheridan, Illinois Fort Sill, Oklahoma Fort F. E. Warren, Wyoming Edgewood Arsenal, Maryland Eglin Army Air Field, Florida Glennan General Hospital, Oklahoma Halloran General Hospital, New York Hampton Roads Port of Embarkation, Virginia Indiantown Gap Military Reservation, Pennsylvania Holabird Signal Depot, Maryland McCloskey General Hospital, Texas Memphis General Depot, Tennessee New Orleans Port of Embarkation, Louisiana Olmsted Field, Pennsylvania Pine Bluff Arsenal, Arkansas Richmond ASF Depot, Virginia Tobyhanna Military Reservation, Pennsylvania Westover Field, Massachusetts |
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"John Keeney" wrote in message ... I've read of German PWs being dropped off around California during Orange season to pick the fruit of indivual trees in peoples' yards. Later in the day, the truck would come back for'm, no guards, no escapes. I don't know if such low security was common. It was pretty normal for Italian POW's in the UK There was a 'POW camp' in the village where I live, in Cambridgeshire which consisted of a shed where the prisoners would report to the 'guard' which was one corporal and a private of the home guard before being allocated work. They were all billeted with local families and worked on the area farms. The only 'escape' was after the war when 3 disappeared to avoid being sent home. Keith |
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