Vehicular Ramp Access

("Gig 601XL Builder" wrote)
Get yourself a picket sign. Doesn't matter what it says. Then you are
exercising your free speech rights on city property.


Then they will exercise their enforcement prerogative...

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/law/jan-june07/speech_03-19.html
This is a "fascinating case". I think so anyway. g

Ok, granted it's school apples vs. threat level orange, but still... much of
your future right to do the picket sign thing will depend on how this ruling
comes down. Maybe.


Montblack-robes

Ok, granted it's school apples vs. threat level orange

The values we teach in high school will be the ones that will be
enforced upon us by the graduating class when they come to power.

What would you like them to get used to?

Jose
--
Humans are pack animals. Above all things, they have a deep need to
follow something, be it a leader, a creed, or a mob. Whosoever fully
understands this holds the world in his hands.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Montblack wrote:


Ok, granted it's school apples vs. threat level orange, but still... much of
your future right to do the picket sign thing will depend on how this ruling
comes down. Maybe.

Only if I go back to high school. Which is unlikely.

Denny wrote:


I noticed a federal court just struck down internet porn filter
regulations promulgated by the Bush administration related to our
topic by being another set of federal regulations rammed down our
throats by zealots... I would not have predicted this outcome for
that suit, but it is refreshing to see the court take the stand that
it is the parents LEGAL responsibility to MONITOR and CONTROL their
children, not the school's, not the library's, etc. and that the
government does not have the constitutional power to reallocate that
responsibility to third parties......

The case cited involved a 1998 U.S. Statue making it a crime for web site
operators (commercial) to let children access "harmful" material. I am
fairly sure that Bush was not the President who signed said law in 1998,
but you may not be.

Here is the ruling, which was at the District Court level:
http://www.paed.uscourts.gov/documen...s/07D0346P.pdf

Sorry to inject facts into your blind partisan ranting. It is fascinating
that the people who say ___ sucks are the same people who demonstrate that
they have no clue what they preach about. Have a nice day.

In article ,
"Marco Leon" wrote:

Thanks for the info. A few questions if I may John.
1) How do the owners perform preventative maintenance on their aircraft?
Specifically, how do they get tools and supplies to the aircraft?

I've been TDY, so am just reading this now.

At KBED vehicles can drive through specific gates and get to T-hangars and also
tie-downs. We can only drive in non-movement areas. In fact, post-9/11, the
access gates now REQUIRE automobiles - no more walking through gates or riding
bikes. I had to put one of those magnet gizmos on my motorcycle to trip the
sensor.

2) Was there an issue with handicap access?

I don't understand the question. But the massport operation guys will escort you
as soon as they can - just call them up/

3) Has there been any pedestrian accidents on the ramp that may have been
prevented if there was vehicular access?

Don't think so.

4) Was there a fight before the airport took away access or was it close
enough to 9-11 that there was no pushback?

Massport doesn't even acknowledge pushback.

5) Does Hanscom have a photo badging system (or other security mechanisms)
for pilots/owners or is the removal of vehicular access the main security
measure?

Yes. We have a photo badge which we have to renew every two years.
And, again, I can drive my car (and motorcycle) through a gate to get
to my airplane.

--
Bob Noel
(gave up lookingn for a particular sig the lawyer will)

Same issue may come up at KCXO (Conroe, Texas.) Meeting with manager is
th 28th. Was AOPA of assistance? If so whom did you contact? TIA!

Griffin

A new wrinkle just this month at KBED is that TSA is now mandating
that there must be two forms of ID on file for every badge holder and
one has to state nationality. MassPort was apparently a little late
in getting the word out and now people are scrambling to get caught
up. We just had a young mech's badge pulled. I was asked to produce
mine in the hangar but my name is not on a list of people with only
one ID so I am o.k.

Apparently MassPort is under threat of having thier entire badge
system decertified if they can't resolve discrepancies.

John

In article . com,
"John" wrote:

A new wrinkle just this month at KBED is that TSA is now mandating
that there must be two forms of ID on file for every badge holder and
one has to state nationality.

What are acceptable forms of personal identification?
I have exactly one, a state issued drivers license.

On Mar 27, 1:23 pm, john smith wrote:
In article . com,

"John" wrote:
A new wrinkle just this month at KBED is that TSA is now mandating
that there must be two forms of ID on file for every badge holder and
one has to state nationality.

What are acceptable forms of personal identification?
I have exactly one, a state issued drivers license.

Birth Certificate or official copy and passport were mentioned. Some
people have used social security cards and Pilot's licenses and
mechanics licenses have nationality on them.

wrote:
Marco Leon wrote:
If anyone has experienced a similar situation at their own airport I'd
love to hear what happened.

FWIW, I might be experiencing something in the same direction at Jones-
Riverside (KRVS) in Tulsa. [...] I have contacted TAA about it, but
have not yet gotten a response; I'll post back if I find anything
interesting.

I contacted TAA early on 22 March. Later that day I got a response that
my email had been forwarded to the Operations division for a response.
I didn't hear anything for a while, so on the afternoon of 2 April I
followed up with the initial contact person. Later that afternoon, she
forwarded me an email from the superintendent of KRVS. It said, in
part,

"Please continue to operate as you always have and should you have a
further issue, get the name of the guard and call me at (phone number)
with the time and date."

So it looks like I can ride my bike where I want to on the airport
again.

Matt Roberds