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Glider near miss with Airliner (emergency climb) near Chicago yesterday?



 
 
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Old October 20th 17, 11:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Glider near miss with Airliner (emergency climb) near Chicago yesterday?

The official report does not provide any additional information.

http://www.asias.faa.gov/pls/apex/f?...R:NGLTRFD17001
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Old October 20th 17, 04:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Glider near miss with Airliner (emergency climb) near Chicago yesterday?

On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 3:51:04 AM UTC-7, wrote:
The official report does not provide any additional information.

http://www.asias.faa.gov/pls/apex/f?...R:NGLTRFD17001


Are we never going to know if this glider had a transponder?
Can someone who flies in the Chicago area please try to sort this out?
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Old October 20th 17, 09:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Glider near miss with Airliner (emergency climb) near Chicago yesterday?

On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 8:48:26 AM UTC-7, Steve Koerner wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 3:51:04 AM UTC-7, wrote:
The official report does not provide any additional information.

http://www.asias.faa.gov/pls/apex/f?...R:NGLTRFD17001


Are we never going to know if this glider had a transponder?
Can someone who flies in the Chicago area please try to sort this out?


The official report lists the other aircraft (glider) as unknown. If it had Mode S, they would know.
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Old October 21st 17, 02:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Glider near miss with Airliner (emergency climb) near Chicago yesterday?

On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 10:48:26 AM UTC-5, Steve Koerner wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 3:51:04 AM UTC-7, wrote:
The official report does not provide any additional information.

http://www.asias.faa.gov/pls/apex/f?...R:NGLTRFD17001


Are we never going to know if this glider had a transponder?
Can someone who flies in the Chicago area please try to sort this out?


It's pretty clear that the glider either didn't have a transponder or it was turned off. If the glider had an operating transponder, it would have been visible on ATC radar, and the UA jet would have presumably been vectored around the glider or at least have received a traffic advisory from ATC (even though this is not required by the FAA rules).

If ATC hadn't vectored the UA jet around the glider, a transponder would have triggered a TCAS Resolution Advisory which would have resolved the situation and avoided the aircraft getting this close to each other. There is no indication in the report that the UA aircraft received a TCAS RA, which would indicate that the glider did not have an operating transponder.
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Old October 21st 17, 04:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Glider near miss with Airliner (emergency climb) near Chicago yesterday?

The flight with the pilot name is out there in public on OLC. very easy to find giving that it was the last day of 2017 season.
I wouldn't be surprised if he is totally oblivious to the fact that he almost made history. Otherwise I would have expected to hear more info by now. Or if he had privacy concerns he could have requested olc to remove the flight.

Ramy
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Old October 30th 17, 02:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Glider near miss with Airliner (emergency climb) near Chicago yesterday?

No Transponder was installed on this glider.


On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 10:48:26 AM UTC-5, Steve Koerner wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 3:51:04 AM UTC-7, wrote:
The official report does not provide any additional information.

http://www.asias.faa.gov/pls/apex/f?...R:NGLTRFD17001


Are we never going to know if this glider had a transponder?
Can someone who flies in the Chicago area please try to sort this out?

 




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