Red Baron vs. Rickenbacker?

"Steve Hix" wrote in message
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vincent p. norris wrote:

Thousands--probably hundreds of thousands--of
Americans have fought against their own or their parents' homelands.
They included William Patrick Hitler, who served in the U.S. Navy in
WWII.

Dan, I recall reading many years ago that Adolph Hitler's real name
was Alois Schickelgruber.

Do you know if that's true?

IIRC, Alois was his father. His given name was Adolph Schicklegruber,
he later changed it to Hitler, his mother's maiden name.


His father was illegitimate and carried the name Schicklegruber
until 1876 when he had established his claim to the surname Hitler.
Adolf was born in 1889 and never used any other name than Hitler.

Keith

Dan, I recall reading many years ago that Adolph Hitler's real name
was Alois Schickelgruber.

We all believed that at the time!

Hitler's father was born Alois Schikelgruber, his mother being
unmarried. A gent named Hitler (perhaps his biological father?)
adopted Alois and gave him his name.

So Adolf was born a Hitler. Imagine how different the 20th century
might have been, had he been a Shickelgruber!

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Thanks for the interesting facts, but what I'm really looking for now
is a legitimate reference source that says where Rickenbacker's
parents were from. (Specifically if it provides an alternative story
to his dad being Swiss.)

Failing that, does anyone know of an e-mail address for one of
Rickenbacker's biographers?

Thanks,
Greg

There is some speculation on Hitler's name(dunno if still going on), that it
was actually Alois Hiedler, but was written, because of some misstyping etc,
it was written closer to the pronunciation in Austrian, Hitler.
Then again if I had to choose between Chanting Hitler, Hiedler or
Schicklegruber....Well for some weird reason id prefer the first two...

Cub Driver wrote:

So Adolf was born a Hitler. Imagine how different the 20th century
might have been, had he been a Shickelgruber!

Yeah just imagine; instead of Volkswagens....FAHRVERGNUGENS!

"Steve Hix" wrote in message
...
In article ,
vincent p. norris wrote:

Thousands--probably hundreds of thousands--of
Americans have fought against their own or their parents' homelands.
They included William Patrick Hitler, who served in the U.S. Navy in
WWII.

Dan, I recall reading many years ago that Adolph Hitler's real name
was Alois Schickelgruber.

Do you know if that's true?

IIRC, Alois was his father. His given name was Adolph Schicklegruber,
he later changed it to Hitler, his mother's maiden name.

I gather it's well established that Josef Stalin's real name was
Visarionovich Dzugashvili (although probably NOT spelled that way).

He adopted "Stalin" because it means "steel." Did Hitler choose
"Hitler" for some similar reason?

Mostly because it sounded better. ("Heil Schikelgruber!" just doesn't
have the zing, does it?) IIRC, Spike Mulligan had a lot of fun playing
with the name, though that might have been Spike Jones.

It was Spike Jones, and I think the name of the piece was something like "Right
in the Fuhrer's Face", although that might just be a line in the song.

George Z.

He adopted "Stalin" because it means "steel."

Man of steel. Luckily, 'Reagan' means "kryptonite".

It was Spike Jones, and I think the name of the piece was something like "Right
in the Fuhrer's Face", although that might just be a line in the song.

Yes, I have that record, with unforgettable lines like--

Not to Love der Fuhrer is a great disgrace,
So ve Heil! Heil! right in der Fuhrer's face!

With appropriate Bronx-cheer type sound effects from the band.

vince norris

Gordon wrote:


He adopted "Stalin" because it means "steel."

Man of steel. Luckily, 'Reagan' means "kryptonite".

*snicker*

Yeah, Stalin & Molotov = "The Steel" & "The Hammer".

What a pair.

-Marc
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