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Cherokee shoulder seat belt replacement
My warrior is fitted with shoulder strap seat belts anchored to the upper side of the plane, just above the second window. From the looks of them they were original equipment. Now - I need to remove the retracting mechanism so I can have new belts attached. After removal of the plastic cover plate I see the spool, bolted to a bracket which is attached to the fuselage with three phillips head screws. The bolt just rotates so I assume it has an unsecured head that I can't get to so the three screws are the only way to remove the retracting mechanism. The only problem is that the screws are so close to the spool that I can't get a proper bite with a screwdriver. A closefit screwdriver will simply "cam out", I can't get any lateral pressure on it. I might be able to grab the screw head with a pair of vise grips but hoped that someone on this group would have a smarter way. If you did - where did you take the equipment for fixin? Leo |
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Cherokee shoulder seat belt replacement
"texas slacker" wrote I might be able to grab the screw head with a pair of vise grips but hoped that someone on this group would have a smarter way. If you did - where did you take the equipment for fixin? Leo Have you considered a screwdriver that is long flexible "cable?" Lacking that working, the vise grips and or a dremmel to cut the head off, and use Allen head screws, and a rounded head Allen wrench driver to put it back together. I have also drilled and tapped the center of a bolt that wanted to turn, and used a small screw and jam nut to hold things still while it is being wrenched out. -- Jim in NC |
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Cherokee shoulder seat belt replacement
"Morgans" wrote in message ... .. a dremel to cut the head off... Sometimes it is possible to use a little cutoff wheel in a Dremel to cut a slot right across a Philips screw head and then use a flat screwdriver. Vaughn |
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Cherokee shoulder seat belt replacement
"Vaughn Simon" wrote in message ... "Morgans" wrote in message ... .. a dremel to cut the head off... Sometimes it is possible to use a little cutoff wheel in a Dremel to cut a slot right across a Philips screw head and then use a flat screwdriver. Done that many times with good results. I didn't mention it, because he said he had problems fitting a screw driver into the screw, because stuff was in the way. I didn't think that a flat would work any better than the Phillips. Really, I have found that a flat will not usually work as well, when the shaft can not be held in straight alignment with the screw. YMMV. -- Jim in NC |
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Cherokee shoulder seat belt replacement
On Sep 25, 9:08*pm, "Morgans" wrote:
"Vaughn Simon" wrote in message ... "Morgans" wrote in message ... .. a dremel to cut the head off... * Sometimes it is possible to use a little cutoff wheel in a Dremel to cut a slot right across a Philips screw head and then use a flat screwdriver. |
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Cherokee shoulder seat belt replacement
wrote Kinda makes one wonder how the factory gets the screws in the first time... G Ain't that the truth! I have two possible answers. The assembly was built up in a way that it can not be taken apart in reverse order, or there was some damn special tool involved. Perhaps a screwdriver tip made real close onto a universal joint. In my way of thinking, if it requires a special tool, 99% of the time it was poor engineering that makes the special tool necessary. -- Jim in NC |
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Cherokee shoulder seat belt replacement
Can you take a photo of the device and post it to
alt.binaries.pictures.aviation -- or somewhere else, or email it to me? |
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Cherokee shoulder seat belt replacement
"Jon Woellhaf" writes:
Can you take a photo of the device and post it to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation -- or somewhere else, or email it to me? Upload to sendspace.com; then post the URL.... I can't see how 3 tiny screws secure it.... -- A host is a host from coast to & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433 |
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Cherokee shoulder seat belt replacement
"Jon Woellhaf" wrote in message . .. Can you take a photo of the device and post it to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation -- or somewhere else, or email it to me? That should be asked of Texas Slacker, I believe. -- Jim in NC |
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Cherokee shoulder seat belt replacement
Ummmm......
If your install is "stock Piper factory".... The bolt is removed to remove the mechanisim... The head is on the OUTSIDE OF THE FUSELAGE , on the roof. You need someone on the outside holding the head. (unless you have 6 ft arms... I sent mine to "Aircraft Belts" for refurb.. Dave On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:02:31 -0700 (PDT), texas slacker wrote: My warrior is fitted with shoulder strap seat belts anchored to the upper side of the plane, just above the second window. From the looks of them they were original equipment. Now - I need to remove the retracting mechanism so I can have new belts attached. After removal of the plastic cover plate I see the spool, bolted to a bracket which is attached to the fuselage with three phillips head screws. The bolt just rotates so I assume it has an unsecured head that I can't get to so the three screws are the only way to remove the retracting mechanism. The only problem is that the screws are so close to the spool that I can't get a proper bite with a screwdriver. A closefit screwdriver will simply "cam out", I can't get any lateral pressure on it. I might be able to grab the screw head with a pair of vise grips but hoped that someone on this group would have a smarter way. If you did - where did you take the equipment for fixin? Leo |
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