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How can we "fix" LEX to prevent wrong runway selection everywhere?



 
 
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Old October 6th 06, 08:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Everett M. Greene[_2_]
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Default How can we "fix" LEX to prevent wrong runway selection everywhere?

Stefan Lörchner writes:
I find myself wondering what the cost of a low-power ground radar


I don't see anything being necessary.
Accidents will happen in the future and they will always happen if
humans are involved. There is nothing that assures perfect safety.

Maybe a moving map display might prevent an accident like this. However,
there will be another accident that is caused (also) by a malfunctioning
moving map because it was not aligned correctly or an old version or a
bad scan...

Living is always life endangering.


Many people seem to forget that fact.

As long as far more people die because of cars and guns
we better should take care of that!


Aviation accidents make the news because they're so rare.
Automobile accidents and fatalities are so common that
they aren't always noted except maybe as a "BTW". It
would get very boring if the newspapers and other news
media started every issue with "100 people killed in
auto accidents today in the U.S." A good aircraft crash
with fatalities on the other hand...
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Old October 8th 06, 01:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Judah
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Default How can we "fix" LEX to prevent wrong runway selection everywhere?

Every computer is only as smart as its programmers and operators.

As such, even if there were some sort of automated method for communicating
instructions to the plane, so long as the instructions are being made by
human ATC controllers to human Pilots, the only thing that would have changed
in the case of LEX is that the takeoff clearance was made through something
other than a mic click. Even if the pilots would have had to enter their
takeoff runway into the computer, they could have entered it improperly, or
the system might not have been able to identify their problem in enough time
for them to safely stop in 3000' anyway...

The Star Trek days are yet to come.

"Jim Carter" wrote in news:001d01c6e833$26b414f0
$4001a8c0@omnibook6100:


As it is now however, the only checks and balances are all human. I'm
not sure it shouldn't remain that way, but at the same time if some
technical solution isn't developed by the industry then the politicians
and lawyers will develop one for us. We all know how well those work...

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Old October 8th 06, 04:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Sam Spade
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Default How can we "fix" LEX to prevent wrong runway selection everywhere?

Judah wrote:
Every computer is only as smart as its programmers and operators.

As such, even if there were some sort of automated method for communicating
instructions to the plane, so long as the instructions are being made by
human ATC controllers to human Pilots, the only thing that would have changed
in the case of LEX is that the takeoff clearance was made through something
other than a mic click. Even if the pilots would have had to enter their
takeoff runway into the computer, they could have entered it improperly, or
the system might not have been able to identify their problem in enough time
for them to safely stop in 3000' anyway...


If that runway wasn't authorized for their operation, they shouldn't
have been able to retrieve it from the FMS database.

Also, almost anyone can set a heading bug and figure out that a runway
isn't lighted.


The Star Trek days are yet to come.

"Jim Carter" wrote in news:001d01c6e833$26b414f0
$4001a8c0@omnibook6100:


As it is now however, the only checks and balances are all human. I'm
not sure it shouldn't remain that way, but at the same time if some
technical solution isn't developed by the industry then the politicians
and lawyers will develop one for us. We all know how well those work...

 




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