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Bars?Â* C'mon Mark.Â* Even you should be swayed by bars...
On 1/4/2020 10:12 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Sat, 04 Jan 2020 08:09:19 -0800, markmocho53 wrote: Yeah, I am really looking forward to a six day trip to New Zealand at 20,000 feet, through all of the lovely tropical storms over the Pacific. Indeed, but probably not as high as 20,000 - I'd guess 8000 - 10,000 to avoid presurised cabins, which are both heavy and need energy to compress the incoming fresh air. OTOH, pax would most likely have bunks/bars/space to move round rather than the less than wonderful seats I've travelled in (apart from the A380, which has really nice seats even in cattle-class). And helium is so plentiful, too! True enough, though IIRC these beasts can transfer their helium between lift bags and storage tanks, i.e. no valving off helium when they land, and they do use a reasonable amount of aerodynamic lift as well as gasbags. There are other similar projects, e.g. http://aeroscraft.com/ https://www.varialift.com/ that will also use some aerodynamic lift and will look and fly quite like the Airlander. But, my main point was that something like these aircraft, but using electric motors instead of the IC engines in the current prototypes, need a lot less power stored in heavy batteries than anything that depends entirely on aerodynamic lift. Airbus and Rolls Royce are retrofitting a BA 146 as a test-bed for using electric ducted fans as potential replacements for high bypass jet engines, BUT they will be powering the fan(s) from a 2MW gas turbine generator in the rear fuselage. It would take a shed load of batteries to replace that generator, so its not at all clear where the electric energy needed to power an all-electric Airbus 320 or Boeing 787 would be stored or how it would be generated in flight. Portable fusion generator anybody? -- Dan, 5J |
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On Sat, 04 Jan 2020 10:54:28 -0700, Dan Marotta wrote:
Bars?Â* C'mon Mark.Â* Even you should be swayed by bars... No Airlander is likely to be as well equipped for in-flight recreation as the Bel Geddes Airliner No 4, but OTOH it is far more likely to be a practical flying machine. For starters two of them have flown, while the No 4 airliner was never built, but one can dream: bars, orchestra, deck games area, restaurants, and individual bedrooms... what's not to like? http://www.keiththomsonbooks.com/blog/4 -- Martin | martin at Gregorie | gregorie dot org |
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On Friday, January 3, 2020 at 10:37:26 AM UTC-5, kinsell wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_dnAD5TD-E Makes you want to fit some floats on an Antares and give it a go! Anybody recognise the flight venue? Harbour Air is Vancouver based so my guess would be the Fraser river delta, but assuming a late afternoon flight, sun in the SW, I am unable to match the terrain with the google sat view. John F |
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On 1/4/20 1:44 PM, john firth wrote:
On Friday, January 3, 2020 at 10:37:26 AM UTC-5, kinsell wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_dnAD5TD-E Makes you want to fit some floats on an Antares and give it a go! Anybody recognise the flight venue? Harbour Air is Vancouver based so my guess would be the Fraser river delta, but assuming a late afternoon flight, sun in the SW, I am unable to match the terrain with the google sat view. John F It was Fraser River, but just after daybreak. |
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Almost sounds too good to be true.
If it came out of George Bye's mouth, it is definitely too good to be true. |
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"Almost sounds too good to be true."
George Bye's specialty. |
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