FOR SALE NEW NK CLEAR NAV

I think a touch screen as on PDA's is still the most useful.....letting you
look directly at what you are trying to change rather than looking down at a
keypad, then back at a screen (and with all this going on attempting to look
outside as well...too many places and not enough eyes..apparently so do PC
Manufacturers as this seems to be the next breakthrough in desktop computing
several manufacturers are pursuing this line.
tim


"Udo Rumpf" wrote in message
...
I disagree strongly, the controls should be clustered around the screen.
The remote is just an other piece of hardware attached to a wire flying
around the cockpit. Naturally I can see and understand your bias.
There are products that function much closer to my way of thinking and I
am not bias. See http://www.triadis.ch
Udo

I find the ClearNav's keypad to be very easy to use. Also, the
ClearNav
is
very much designed with "simple user-interface" as a key design
consideration. I think it succeeds at that goal superbly. I predict
that

there will be many more ClearNav units sold than "Ultimate" systems.
Also,
NK is a first class company that will be creating many very nice soaring

instruments in the near future and they (and I) will support the ClearNav

extremely well. But I'm biased because I sell, support and am writing
the

Clearly both touch-screen and remotes have dedicated users. I prefer
a remote because I can't reach my instrument panel and have difficulty
touching the screen of a PDA in our turbulent western air.

Also, an early PDA system I had flew out of its cradle and landed
behind my back, where it was a little less than useful. I know the
new cradles are better, but I still prefer an instrument to be firmly
bolted to the panel.

I'm sure we'll see some good developments in the next year or two and
I'm watching these new developments closely, meanwhile I'll stick
with my SN10.

Mike

At 19:47 15 September 2008, Tim Mara wrote:
I think a touch screen as on PDA's is still the most useful.....letting
you

look directly at what you are trying to change rather than looking down
at
a
keypad, then back at a screen (and with all this going on attempting to
look
outside as well...too many places and not enough eyes..apparently so do
PC

Manufacturers as this seems to be the next breakthrough in desktop
computing
several manufacturers are pursuing this line.
tim


With a properly designed handheld remote, in my experience, you don't
need to look at the control at all.

John Galloway

Mike the Strike wrote:
..... difficulty
touching the screen of a PDA in our turbulent western air.


I'm wondering how a trackball would work here.

Tony

On Sep 16, 4:54*pm, Tony Verhulst wrote:
Mike the Strike wrote:
..... difficulty
touching the screen of a PDA in our *turbulent western air.

I'm wondering how a trackball would work here.

Tony

A trackball would work fine if you could locate it where your hand or
wrist is supported. The problem with a touch screen is that your arm
and hand are extended and move under the g forces on the glider. I
have no problem at all with a remote located by my left hand.

Mike

Bill Daniels wrote:

I run free software on a $100 used PDA. My only gripe is that the screen is
too small and dim.

Has anyone tried one of those ruggedized PDAs in the cockpit, like
the TDS Recon. In theory it fixes the too dim problem.

http://www.tdsway.com/products/recon

Hi Bill,

I just searched the TDS page below looking for any indication that the
screen is sunlight readable and I couldn't find anything. Perhaps I missed
it. What gives you the impression that it is brighter than any other PDA?

Paul Remde

"Greg O'Sullivan" wrote in message
u...
Bill Daniels wrote:

I run free software on a $100 used PDA. My only gripe is that the screen
is too small and dim.

Has anyone tried one of those ruggedized PDAs in the cockpit, like
the TDS Recon. In theory it fixes the too dim problem.

http://www.tdsway.com/products/recon

On Sep 17, 6:42*am, "Paul Remde" wrote:
Hi Bill,

I just searched the TDS page below looking for any indication that the
screen is sunlight readable and I couldn't find anything. *Perhaps I missed
it. *What gives you the impression that it is brighter than any other PDA?

Paul Remde

"Greg O'Sullivan" wrote in message

u...



Bill Daniels wrote:

I run free software on a $100 used PDA. *My only gripe is that the screen
is too small and dim.

Has anyone tried one of those ruggedized PDAs in the cockpit, like
the TDS Recon. In theory it fixes the too dim problem.

http://www.tdsway.com/products/recon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Paul,

See the specifications page: "Sunlight-readable color TFT display"

" wrote in message
:

On Sep 17, 6:42 am, "Paul Remde" wrote:
Hi Bill,

I just searched the TDS page below looking for any indication that the
screen is sunlight readable and I couldn't find anything. Perhaps I missed
it. What gives you the impression that it is brighter than any other PDA?

Paul Remde

"Greg O'Sullivan" wrote in message

u...



Bill Daniels wrote:

I run free software on a $100 used PDA. My only gripe is that the screen
is too small and dim.

Has anyone tried one of those ruggedized PDAs in the cockpit, like
the TDS Recon. In theory it fixes the too dim problem.

http://www.tdsway.com/products/recon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Paul,

See the specifications page: "Sunlight-readable color TFT display"

Since they do not quote any brightness specs, I would be very
suspicious.

Larry

On Sep 16, 4:54*pm, Tony Verhulst wrote:
Mike the Strike wrote:
..... difficulty
touching the screen of a PDA in our *turbulent western air.

I'm wondering how a trackball would work here.

Tony

Tony,

The trackball I am using with the Ultimate is a Micro Track handheld
trackball, it fits easily in your hand, move the ball with your
thumb . It works very well with either hand and the mouse arrow does
not move when you take you thumb off the ball. I perfer it to the
touch screen input especially in turbulence.

Please see pictures http://www.craggyaero.com/ultimate.htm .

Any USB mouse type input will work with the Utimate. I have tried a
larger ball track mouse but could not find a suitable place to put it
and did not like it as well as the handheld. I guess you could strap
it to your leg. I have also looked at a joystick type mouse, but they
are very expensive.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com