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Old July 20th 19, 03:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net
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Default No LXNav TrafficView Manual???

The new LXNav TrafficView has been available for a while now. But where the heck is the manual?

I know, I know, it is similar enough to the older FlarmView so we can "just figure things out". But a new expensive product and no manual available at startup? Really?

One thing we have all noticed is that glider specific avionics manufacturers seem to think that manuals are an afterthought and there is no need to update them with major software releases.

- "Manual-less" John
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Old July 20th 19, 03:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
soaringjac
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Default No LXNav TrafficView Manual???

On Saturday, July 20, 2019 at 7:41:01 AM UTC-7, John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net wrote:
The new LXNav TrafficView has been available for a while now. But where the heck is the manual?

I know, I know, it is similar enough to the older FlarmView so we can "just figure things out". But a new expensive product and no manual available at startup? Really?

One thing we have all noticed is that glider specific avionics manufacturers seem to think that manuals are an afterthought and there is no need to update them with major software releases.

- "Manual-less" John


I have noticed that as well with manuals, they either dont exist or are and afterthought and never updated. drives me nuts! Good luck
  #3  
Old July 20th 19, 04:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default No LXNav TrafficView Manual???

Just a shout out to LXNav...

I just received a Flarmview yesterday and, before picking it up at the
post office, I sat at home with my cable building tools but was unable
to get a cable to test properly.* When I opened the Flarmview there was
a flat cable included with an RJ-45 connector on one end and an RJ-11 on
the other, a pretty good start.

At the airport, I opened the panel of my Stemme, found the cable
splitter that I'd installed a couple of years ago to split the signal
from my PowerFlarm portable, one leg to my ClearNav and the other to a
K6-BT to send a Bluetooth signal to my wife's Streak/XCSoar.* I removed
one cable from the splitter's output and connected the Flarmview,
powered up and...* It worked!* So I disabled the Bluetooth channel in
the Streak, pulled the glider out and went flying.

I was so happy seeing a target on the Flarmview before takeoff that I
did not notice that the ClearNav was no longer displaying targets.* Late
in the flight I noticed that the ClearNav was not displaying a lowercase
"f", indicating connectivity with the Flarm,
*so I thought it might be a setup problem with the Flarmview blocking
the ClearNav.* Back at the hangar, I changed the setup on the Flarmview
to make it a slave peripheral.* Then I thought to enable the Flarm
channel on the Streak.* Yup, I'd removed the wrong cable from the
splitter.* The Streak was displaying Flarm traffic. So I swapped the
cables and the "f" popped up on the ClearNav.* I'll have to fly it today
and see how it all plays together.

On 7/20/2019 8:40 AM, John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net wrote:
The new LXNav TrafficView has been available for a while now. But where the heck is the manual?

I know, I know, it is similar enough to the older FlarmView so we can "just figure things out". But a new expensive product and no manual available at startup? Really?

One thing we have all noticed is that glider specific avionics manufacturers seem to think that manuals are an afterthought and there is no need to update them with major software releases.

- "Manual-less" John


--
Dan, 5J
  #4  
Old July 21st 19, 02:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Posts: 3,644
Default No LXNav TrafficView Manual???

It played together well.* But I didn't have a current flarmnet file so I
downloaded, converted, and installed the file on the SD card which came
with the device.* Now the device won't turn on.* I tried with a
different SD card and it did turn on.* I've brought the SD cards home
and will try to figure out what went wrong.

I'm very happy with the Flarmview and the manual is available on the
LXNav website.* There was also a copy of the user manual on the USB
stick included with the device.

On 7/20/2019 9:16 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
Just a shout out to LXNav...

I just received a Flarmview yesterday and, before picking it up at the
post office, I sat at home with my cable building tools but was unable
to get a cable to test properly.* When I opened the Flarmview there
was a flat cable included with an RJ-45 connector on one end and an
RJ-11 on the other, a pretty good start.

At the airport, I opened the panel of my Stemme, found the cable
splitter that I'd installed a couple of years ago to split the signal
from my PowerFlarm portable, one leg to my ClearNav and the other to a
K6-BT to send a Bluetooth signal to my wife's Streak/XCSoar.* I
removed one cable from the splitter's output and connected the
Flarmview, powered up and...* It worked!* So I disabled the Bluetooth
channel in the Streak, pulled the glider out and went flying.

I was so happy seeing a target on the Flarmview before takeoff that I
did not notice that the ClearNav was no longer displaying targets.*
Late in the flight I noticed that the ClearNav was not displaying a
lowercase "f", indicating connectivity with the Flarm,
*so I thought it might be a setup problem with the Flarmview blocking
the ClearNav.* Back at the hangar, I changed the setup on the
Flarmview to make it a slave peripheral.* Then I thought to enable the
Flarm channel on the Streak.* Yup, I'd removed the wrong cable from
the splitter.* The Streak was displaying Flarm traffic. So I swapped
the cables and the "f" popped up on the ClearNav.* I'll have to fly it
today and see how it all plays together.

On 7/20/2019 8:40 AM, John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net
wrote:
The new LXNav TrafficView has been available for a while now.* But
where the heck is the manual?

I know, I know, it is similar enough to the older FlarmView so we can
"just figure things out".* But a new expensive product and no manual
available at startup?* Really?

One thing we have all noticed is that glider specific avionics
manufacturers seem to think that manuals are an afterthought and
there is no need to update them with* major software releases.

- "Manual-less" John



--
Dan, 5J
  #5  
Old July 21st 19, 03:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Posts: 3,644
Default No LXNav TrafficView Manual???

So my Flarmview SD card is shot.* I recall there were a few folders and
other files on the card as delivered.* I have a flarm.flx file which
I've installed on a clean SD card.

Can anyone tell me what else should be on the SD card and where I can
find it?* I've found nothing at the lxnav.com website.

On 7/20/2019 7:41 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
It played together well.* But I didn't have a current flarmnet file so
I downloaded, converted, and installed the file on the SD card which
came with the device.* Now the device won't turn on.* I tried with a
different SD card and it did turn on.* I've brought the SD cards home
and will try to figure out what went wrong.

I'm very happy with the Flarmview and the manual is available on the
LXNav website.* There was also a copy of the user manual on the USB
stick included with the device.

On 7/20/2019 9:16 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
Just a shout out to LXNav...

I just received a Flarmview yesterday and, before picking it up at
the post office, I sat at home with my cable building tools but was
unable to get a cable to test properly.* When I opened the Flarmview
there was a flat cable included with an RJ-45 connector on one end
and an RJ-11 on the other, a pretty good start.

At the airport, I opened the panel of my Stemme, found the cable
splitter that I'd installed a couple of years ago to split the signal
from my PowerFlarm portable, one leg to my ClearNav and the other to
a K6-BT to send a Bluetooth signal to my wife's Streak/XCSoar.* I
removed one cable from the splitter's output and connected the
Flarmview, powered up and...* It worked!* So I disabled the Bluetooth
channel in the Streak, pulled the glider out and went flying.

I was so happy seeing a target on the Flarmview before takeoff that I
did not notice that the ClearNav was no longer displaying targets.*
Late in the flight I noticed that the ClearNav was not displaying a
lowercase "f", indicating connectivity with the Flarm,
*so I thought it might be a setup problem with the Flarmview blocking
the ClearNav.* Back at the hangar, I changed the setup on the
Flarmview to make it a slave peripheral.* Then I thought to enable
the Flarm channel on the Streak.* Yup, I'd removed the wrong cable
from the splitter.* The Streak was displaying Flarm traffic. So I
swapped the cables and the "f" popped up on the ClearNav.* I'll have
to fly it today and see how it all plays together.

On 7/20/2019 8:40 AM, John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net
wrote:
The new LXNav TrafficView has been available for a while now.* But
where the heck is the manual?

I know, I know, it is similar enough to the older FlarmView so we
can "just figure things out".* But a new expensive product and no
manual available at startup?* Really?

One thing we have all noticed is that glider specific avionics
manufacturers seem to think that manuals are an afterthought and
there is no need to update them with* major software releases.

- "Manual-less" John




--
Dan, 5J
  #6  
Old July 21st 19, 04:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default No LXNav TrafficView Manual???

On Saturday, July 20, 2019 at 7:41:01 AM UTC-7, John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net wrote:
The new LXNav TrafficView has been available for a while now. But where the heck is the manual?

I know, I know, it is similar enough to the older FlarmView so we can "just figure things out". But a new expensive product and no manual available at startup? Really?

One thing we have all noticed is that glider specific avionics manufacturers seem to think that manuals are an afterthought and there is no need to update them with major software releases.

- "Manual-less" John


Not to pick on LXNav, since other suppliers may be as bad, but the LXNav manuals are very poor: muddled, written in 'odd English', with many products combined into a single manual. They make what is a good product hard to understand.
  #7  
Old July 21st 19, 05:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Richard Pfiffner[_2_]
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Default No LXNav TrafficView Manual???

On Saturday, July 20, 2019 at 7:15:04 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
So my Flarmview SD card is shot.* I recall there were a few folders and
other files on the card as delivered.* I have a flarm.flx file which
I've installed on a clean SD card.

Can anyone tell me what else should be on the SD card and where I can
find it?* I've found nothing at the lxnav.com website.

On 7/20/2019 7:41 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
It played together well.* But I didn't have a current flarmnet file so
I downloaded, converted, and installed the file on the SD card which
came with the device.* Now the device won't turn on.* I tried with a
different SD card and it did turn on.* I've brought the SD cards home
and will try to figure out what went wrong.

I'm very happy with the Flarmview and the manual is available on the
LXNav website.* There was also a copy of the user manual on the USB
stick included with the device.

On 7/20/2019 9:16 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
Just a shout out to LXNav...

I just received a Flarmview yesterday and, before picking it up at
the post office, I sat at home with my cable building tools but was
unable to get a cable to test properly.* When I opened the Flarmview
there was a flat cable included with an RJ-45 connector on one end
and an RJ-11 on the other, a pretty good start.

At the airport, I opened the panel of my Stemme, found the cable
splitter that I'd installed a couple of years ago to split the signal
from my PowerFlarm portable, one leg to my ClearNav and the other to
a K6-BT to send a Bluetooth signal to my wife's Streak/XCSoar.* I
removed one cable from the splitter's output and connected the
Flarmview, powered up and...* It worked!* So I disabled the Bluetooth
channel in the Streak, pulled the glider out and went flying.

I was so happy seeing a target on the Flarmview before takeoff that I
did not notice that the ClearNav was no longer displaying targets.*
Late in the flight I noticed that the ClearNav was not displaying a
lowercase "f", indicating connectivity with the Flarm,
*so I thought it might be a setup problem with the Flarmview blocking
the ClearNav.* Back at the hangar, I changed the setup on the
Flarmview to make it a slave peripheral.* Then I thought to enable
the Flarm channel on the Streak.* Yup, I'd removed the wrong cable
from the splitter.* The Streak was displaying Flarm traffic. So I
swapped the cables and the "f" popped up on the ClearNav.* I'll have
to fly it today and see how it all plays together.

On 7/20/2019 8:40 AM, John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net
wrote:
The new LXNav TrafficView has been available for a while now.* But
where the heck is the manual?

I know, I know, it is similar enough to the older FlarmView so we
can "just figure things out".* But a new expensive product and no
manual available at startup?* Really?

One thing we have all noticed is that glider specific avionics
manufacturers seem to think that manuals are an afterthought and
there is no need to update them with* major software releases.

- "Manual-less" John



--
Dan, 5J


That is all you need.

Richard
  #8  
Old July 21st 19, 04:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Posts: 3,644
Default No LXNav TrafficView Manual???

Thanks, Richard.

Is it safe to assume that my configuration will be written to the card
or stored in the device?* I found that by configuring the device without
a card installed and cycling the power, it reverted to factory
condition.* Of course, next time I fly, I'll find out...

On 7/20/2019 10:12 PM, Richard Pfiffner wrote:
On Saturday, July 20, 2019 at 7:15:04 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
So my Flarmview SD card is shot.* I recall there were a few folders and
other files on the card as delivered.* I have a flarm.flx file which
I've installed on a clean SD card.

Can anyone tell me what else should be on the SD card and where I can
find it?* I've found nothing at the lxnav.com website.

On 7/20/2019 7:41 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
It played together well.* But I didn't have a current flarmnet file so
I downloaded, converted, and installed the file on the SD card which
came with the device.* Now the device won't turn on.* I tried with a
different SD card and it did turn on.* I've brought the SD cards home
and will try to figure out what went wrong.

I'm very happy with the Flarmview and the manual is available on the
LXNav website.* There was also a copy of the user manual on the USB
stick included with the device.

On 7/20/2019 9:16 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
Just a shout out to LXNav...

I just received a Flarmview yesterday and, before picking it up at
the post office, I sat at home with my cable building tools but was
unable to get a cable to test properly.* When I opened the Flarmview
there was a flat cable included with an RJ-45 connector on one end
and an RJ-11 on the other, a pretty good start.

At the airport, I opened the panel of my Stemme, found the cable
splitter that I'd installed a couple of years ago to split the signal
from my PowerFlarm portable, one leg to my ClearNav and the other to
a K6-BT to send a Bluetooth signal to my wife's Streak/XCSoar.* I
removed one cable from the splitter's output and connected the
Flarmview, powered up and...* It worked!* So I disabled the Bluetooth
channel in the Streak, pulled the glider out and went flying.

I was so happy seeing a target on the Flarmview before takeoff that I
did not notice that the ClearNav was no longer displaying targets.
Late in the flight I noticed that the ClearNav was not displaying a
lowercase "f", indicating connectivity with the Flarm,
*so I thought it might be a setup problem with the Flarmview blocking
the ClearNav.* Back at the hangar, I changed the setup on the
Flarmview to make it a slave peripheral.* Then I thought to enable
the Flarm channel on the Streak.* Yup, I'd removed the wrong cable
from the splitter.* The Streak was displaying Flarm traffic. So I
swapped the cables and the "f" popped up on the ClearNav.* I'll have
to fly it today and see how it all plays together.

On 7/20/2019 8:40 AM, John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net
wrote:
The new LXNav TrafficView has been available for a while now.* But
where the heck is the manual?

I know, I know, it is similar enough to the older FlarmView so we
can "just figure things out".* But a new expensive product and no
manual available at startup?* Really?

One thing we have all noticed is that glider specific avionics
manufacturers seem to think that manuals are an afterthought and
there is no need to update them with* major software releases.

- "Manual-less" John

--
Dan, 5J

That is all you need.

Richard


--
Dan, 5J
  #9  
Old July 21st 19, 05:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Richard Pfiffner[_2_]
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Posts: 180
Default No LXNav TrafficView Manual???

On Sunday, July 21, 2019 at 8:19:47 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
Thanks, Richard.

Is it safe to assume that my configuration will be written to the card
or stored in the device?* I found that by configuring the device without
a card installed and cycling the power, it reverted to factory
condition.* Of course, next time I fly, I'll find out...

On 7/20/2019 10:12 PM, Richard Pfiffner wrote:
On Saturday, July 20, 2019 at 7:15:04 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
So my Flarmview SD card is shot.* I recall there were a few folders and
other files on the card as delivered.* I have a flarm.flx file which
I've installed on a clean SD card.

Can anyone tell me what else should be on the SD card and where I can
find it?* I've found nothing at the lxnav.com website.

On 7/20/2019 7:41 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
It played together well.* But I didn't have a current flarmnet file so
I downloaded, converted, and installed the file on the SD card which
came with the device.* Now the device won't turn on.* I tried with a
different SD card and it did turn on.* I've brought the SD cards home
and will try to figure out what went wrong.

I'm very happy with the Flarmview and the manual is available on the
LXNav website.* There was also a copy of the user manual on the USB
stick included with the device.

On 7/20/2019 9:16 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
Just a shout out to LXNav...

I just received a Flarmview yesterday and, before picking it up at
the post office, I sat at home with my cable building tools but was
unable to get a cable to test properly.* When I opened the Flarmview
there was a flat cable included with an RJ-45 connector on one end
and an RJ-11 on the other, a pretty good start.

At the airport, I opened the panel of my Stemme, found the cable
splitter that I'd installed a couple of years ago to split the signal
from my PowerFlarm portable, one leg to my ClearNav and the other to
a K6-BT to send a Bluetooth signal to my wife's Streak/XCSoar.* I
removed one cable from the splitter's output and connected the
Flarmview, powered up and...* It worked!* So I disabled the Bluetooth
channel in the Streak, pulled the glider out and went flying.

I was so happy seeing a target on the Flarmview before takeoff that I
did not notice that the ClearNav was no longer displaying targets.
Late in the flight I noticed that the ClearNav was not displaying a
lowercase "f", indicating connectivity with the Flarm,
*so I thought it might be a setup problem with the Flarmview blocking
the ClearNav.* Back at the hangar, I changed the setup on the
Flarmview to make it a slave peripheral.* Then I thought to enable
the Flarm channel on the Streak.* Yup, I'd removed the wrong cable
from the splitter.* The Streak was displaying Flarm traffic. So I
swapped the cables and the "f" popped up on the ClearNav.* I'll have
to fly it today and see how it all plays together.

On 7/20/2019 8:40 AM, John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net
wrote:
The new LXNav TrafficView has been available for a while now.* But
where the heck is the manual?

I know, I know, it is similar enough to the older FlarmView so we
can "just figure things out".* But a new expensive product and no
manual available at startup?* Really?

One thing we have all noticed is that glider specific avionics
manufacturers seem to think that manuals are an afterthought and
there is no need to update them with* major software releases.

- "Manual-less" John
--
Dan, 5J

That is all you need.

Richard


--
Dan, 5J


Dan,

I found that you may have to reset the baud rate on the Flarmview if it is different than the PowerFlarm Cfg file. My FlarmChg.txt was 57600 for the flarmview port, if you put a blank card in the flarmview the baud rate of the flarmview reverts to 19200 which is probably the default of the flarmview.

Richard

  #10  
Old July 21st 19, 06:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dan Marotta
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Default No LXNav TrafficView Manual???

Thanks Richard,

I'm leaving for the airport now and will check the baudrates.* If memory
serves I have $PFLAC,S,BAUD1,5 (57,600 baud) in the PowerFlarm portable
and 19,200 baud in the flarmview.* I'll see if I can set the higher baud
rate in the flarmview and, if that doesn't work, I'll lower the baud
rate in the PF portable to 19,200 (BAUD1,2).

Dan

On 7/21/2019 10:35 AM, Richard Pfiffner wrote:
On Sunday, July 21, 2019 at 8:19:47 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
Thanks, Richard.

Is it safe to assume that my configuration will be written to the card
or stored in the device?* I found that by configuring the device without
a card installed and cycling the power, it reverted to factory
condition.* Of course, next time I fly, I'll find out...

On 7/20/2019 10:12 PM, Richard Pfiffner wrote:
On Saturday, July 20, 2019 at 7:15:04 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
So my Flarmview SD card is shot.* I recall there were a few folders and
other files on the card as delivered.* I have a flarm.flx file which
I've installed on a clean SD card.

Can anyone tell me what else should be on the SD card and where I can
find it?* I've found nothing at the lxnav.com website.

On 7/20/2019 7:41 PM, Dan Marotta wrote:
It played together well.* But I didn't have a current flarmnet file so
I downloaded, converted, and installed the file on the SD card which
came with the device.* Now the device won't turn on.* I tried with a
different SD card and it did turn on.* I've brought the SD cards home
and will try to figure out what went wrong.

I'm very happy with the Flarmview and the manual is available on the
LXNav website.* There was also a copy of the user manual on the USB
stick included with the device.

On 7/20/2019 9:16 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
Just a shout out to LXNav...

I just received a Flarmview yesterday and, before picking it up at
the post office, I sat at home with my cable building tools but was
unable to get a cable to test properly.* When I opened the Flarmview
there was a flat cable included with an RJ-45 connector on one end
and an RJ-11 on the other, a pretty good start.

At the airport, I opened the panel of my Stemme, found the cable
splitter that I'd installed a couple of years ago to split the signal
from my PowerFlarm portable, one leg to my ClearNav and the other to
a K6-BT to send a Bluetooth signal to my wife's Streak/XCSoar.* I
removed one cable from the splitter's output and connected the
Flarmview, powered up and...* It worked!* So I disabled the Bluetooth
channel in the Streak, pulled the glider out and went flying.

I was so happy seeing a target on the Flarmview before takeoff that I
did not notice that the ClearNav was no longer displaying targets.
Late in the flight I noticed that the ClearNav was not displaying a
lowercase "f", indicating connectivity with the Flarm,
*so I thought it might be a setup problem with the Flarmview blocking
the ClearNav.* Back at the hangar, I changed the setup on the
Flarmview to make it a slave peripheral.* Then I thought to enable
the Flarm channel on the Streak.* Yup, I'd removed the wrong cable
from the splitter.* The Streak was displaying Flarm traffic. So I
swapped the cables and the "f" popped up on the ClearNav.* I'll have
to fly it today and see how it all plays together.

On 7/20/2019 8:40 AM, John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net
wrote:
The new LXNav TrafficView has been available for a while now.* But
where the heck is the manual?

I know, I know, it is similar enough to the older FlarmView so we
can "just figure things out".* But a new expensive product and no
manual available at startup?* Really?

One thing we have all noticed is that glider specific avionics
manufacturers seem to think that manuals are an afterthought and
there is no need to update them with* major software releases.

- "Manual-less" John
--
Dan, 5J
That is all you need.

Richard

--
Dan, 5J

Dan,

I found that you may have to reset the baud rate on the Flarmview if it is different than the PowerFlarm Cfg file. My FlarmChg.txt was 57600 for the flarmview port, if you put a blank card in the flarmview the baud rate of the flarmview reverts to 19200 which is probably the default of the flarmview.

Richard


--
Dan, 5J
 




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