Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC

Mxsmanic,

The result depends on the reader. It was deliberately ambiguous in
order to ensure this. The interpretation put upon it by the reader
can reveal much.


That's a very sophisticated way of saying: I am an arrogant prick
jerking your chains.

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Nomen,

When you were a kid, did you ever hold a magnifying glass over an
ant and watch it fry? Responding to Mx is quite similar


I like that comparison ;-)

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Sam Spade writes:

91.129 also applies to Class C and B airports as a matter of regulation.

There are separate sections for Class B and Class C, and they don't
say anything about this restriction.

For purposes of the issue there is absolutely no difference whether it
be B, C, or D, because the rules for D apply to B and C.

Where is this written?

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Wolfgang Schwanke writes:

It doesn't behave there at all, because it can't get there on its own.
If MSFS allows you to fly a C172 to that altitude, it models it wrongly.

It doesn't allow you to fly there, but you can slew up to that
altitude.

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Neil Gould writes:

That is an absurd scenario, and of no use in the simulation of the real
aircraft.

I agree. But the important point is that nobody knows whether the
simulation is correct or not, because nobody has tried hoisting a 172
to that altitude to see how it flies.

Bottom line: if the game allows the aircraft to reach a FL that is twice
the service ceiling of the real aircraft, then the engine is modelled
incorrectly.

MSFS does not allow that. The only way to get that high is by
slewing.

Of course, it is a non-issue for those of us that actually fly.

You seem to be pretty upset over it.

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Mxsmanic wrote:



Of course, it is a non-issue for those of us that actually fly.


You seem to be pretty upset over it.

You have a talent for causing real pilots to have that emotion. You
need a lot of work on tact and interpersonal relationships. I suspect,
though, you just don't care that you come off as arrogant, ignorant, and
obnoxious.

Mxsmanic wrote:

Sam Spade writes:


91.129 also applies to Class C and B airports as a matter of regulation.


There are separate sections for Class B and Class C, and they don't
say anything about this restriction.


For purposes of the issue there is absolutely no difference whether it
be B, C, or D, because the rules for D apply to B and C.


Where is this written?

Your stupidity is showing again.

Sam Spade writes:

Your stupidity is showing again.

No, I looked and didn't find it, so I'm asking you to point it out.
It isn't written, is it?

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Sam Spade writes:

You have a talent for causing real pilots to have that emotion.

They choose their emotions; I don't. Smart pilots tend to be
relatively unaffected, but it's still their choice.

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Newps writes:


BZZT, try again.


Which flight path is followed in a forward slip?

Irrelavant. The point is my dear clueless wonder is that the flight
path is altered by the rudder.