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AIR FORCE WORKING TO REMOVE CORROSION FROM F-22A FIGHTER JETS
Wonderful...
Inside the Air Force Wing mods also under way AIR FORCE WORKING TO REMOVE CORROSION FROM F-22A FIGHTER JETS September 7, 2007 HILL AIR FORCE BASE, UT -- The Air Force is quickly working to remove recently discovered corrosion on its fifth-generation F-22A fighter fleet, maintenance officials tell Inside the Air Force. Raptors are currently going through an evaluation phase of a repair program, dubbed the "corrosion speed line," Mike Dooner, the aircraft production chief, said during a Sept. 5 interview at the repair shop here. "We're just cleaning it up," Dooner said. Maintainers are "going to be putting different type panels on" the Raptors in the next couple of months as well. Classification issues prevented the officials from disclosing the areas of the corrosion, the number of aircraft impacted, the number of jets being worked on and the price tag on the modifications. Maintainers -- who include industry partners from Lockheed Martin -- also are performing "techniques" that extend the service life of the advanced fighter's wing-lugs and attach fittings, Dooner said. Later model aircraft coming off the production line will already be upgraded. The upgrade takes roughly 43 days to complete. The second part of the Raptor's structural repair phase includes a hardware installation and more structural work on the aft of the jet, he said. Right now, Raptors are receiving these modifications at Hill, while others are undergoing the corrosion upgrade and receiving the wing upgrade, Ned King, F-22A squadron operations officer, said in the same interview. Corrosion affected jets have already gone through the shop and the wing modification, Dooner said. Those aircraft were all delivered on time, King noted. Technicians also are in the process of completing a "night air-to-air refueling" modification in which replacement lights are installed on top of the aircraft, Dooner said. It takes maintainers about 30 days to complete this upgrade. The upgrade gives the pilot better visibility when connecting to a refueling tanker, he said. This program began 18 months earlier than expected due to an urgent need request, King said. In addition to Hill, F-22A modifications are being conducted at Tyndall Air Force Base, FL, and a Lockheed Martin facility in Palmdale, CA. Hill's modification shop will soon be getting a structural upgrade of its own. Officials are soliciting contractors to build a new facility across from where the current hanger is located, King said. Congress allotted $26 million in the fiscal year 2007 Military Construction Appropriations Act for the project, according to a Senate report on the legislation. |
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AIR FORCE WORKING TO REMOVE CORROSION FROM F-22A FIGHTER JETS
And these aircraft are how old?
Imagine the corrosion control challenge the F-22 would present in a really corrosive environment like carrier operations. -- Mike Kanze "We could certainly slow the aging process down if it had to work its way through Congress." - Will Rogers "Mike" wrote in message oups.com... Wonderful... Inside the Air Force Wing mods also under way AIR FORCE WORKING TO REMOVE CORROSION FROM F-22A FIGHTER JETS September 7, 2007 [rest snipped] |
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AIR FORCE WORKING TO REMOVE CORROSION FROM F-22A FIGHTER JETS
In article , "Mike Kanze"
wrote: And these aircraft are how old?=20 Imagine the corrosion control challenge the F-22 would present in a = really corrosive environment like carrier operations.=20 I'm not going to defend Lockheed in the least on this except to note that there are many different kinds of "corrosion", and carrier operations expose an aircraft to only 2 or 3 of the types. -- Harry Andreas Engineering raconteur |
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AIR FORCE WORKING TO REMOVE CORROSION FROM F-22A FIGHTER JETS
On Sep 12, 12:14 pm, Mike wrote:
Wonderful... Inside the Air Force Wing mods also under way AIR FORCE WORKING TO REMOVE CORROSION FROM F-22A FIGHTER JETS September 7, 2007 HILL AIR FORCE BASE, UT -- The Air Force is quickly working to remove recently discovered corrosion on its fifth-generation F-22A fighter fleet, maintenance officials tell Inside the Air Force. Raptors are currently going through an evaluation phase of a repair program, dubbed the "corrosion speed line," Mike Dooner, the aircraft production chief, said during a Sept. 5 interview at the repair shop here. "We're just cleaning it up," Dooner said. Maintainers are "going to be putting different type panels on" the Raptors in the next couple of months as well. Classification issues prevented the officials from disclosing the areas of the corrosion, the number of aircraft impacted, the number of jets being worked on and the price tag on the modifications. Maintainers -- who include industry partners from Lockheed Martin -- also are performing "techniques" that extend the service life of the advanced fighter's wing-lugs and attach fittings, Dooner said. Later model aircraft coming off the production line will already be upgraded. The upgrade takes roughly 43 days to complete. The second part of the Raptor's structural repair phase includes a hardware installation and more structural work on the aft of the jet, he said. Right now, Raptors are receiving these modifications at Hill, while others are undergoing the corrosion upgrade and receiving the wing upgrade, Ned King, F-22A squadron operations officer, said in the same interview. Corrosion affected jets have already gone through the shop and the wing modification, Dooner said. Those aircraft were all delivered on time, King noted. Technicians also are in the process of completing a "night air-to-air refueling" modification in which replacement lights are installed on top of the aircraft, Dooner said. It takes maintainers about 30 days to complete this upgrade. The upgrade gives the pilot better visibility when connecting to a refueling tanker, he said. This program began 18 months earlier than expected due to an urgent need request, King said. In addition to Hill, F-22A modifications are being conducted at Tyndall Air Force Base, FL, and a Lockheed Martin facility in Palmdale, CA. Hill's modification shop will soon be getting a structural upgrade of its own. Officials are soliciting contractors to build a new facility across from where the current hanger is located, King said. Congress allotted $26 million in the fiscal year 2007 Military Construction Appropriations Act for the project, according to a Senate report on the legislation. Yes by all means get those goddamn things patched up so the air refuel tankers can lead them around on their missions. LOL!!! |
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AIR FORCE WORKING TO REMOVE CORROSION FROM F-22A FIGHTER JETS
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:14:53 -0700, Mike wrote:
Wonderful... Inside the Air Force Wing mods also under way AIR FORCE WORKING TO REMOVE CORROSION FROM F-22A FIGHTER JETS September 7, 2007 This called "where are those pesky F-22's for certain?".........nobody KNOWS where they are. Why, they could pop up over Iran by complete surprise I bet. Dave |
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AIR FORCE WORKING TO REMOVE CORROSION FROM F-22A FIGHTER JETS
"Mike" wrote in message oups.com... Wonderful... Inside the Air Force Wing mods also under way AIR FORCE WORKING TO REMOVE CORROSION FROM F-22A FIGHTER JETS September 7, 2007 Newsflash, NDI or Non-Destructive Inspection is part of EVERY Scheduled Maintenance Dock inspection. Yes, they do inspect for corrosion and metal fatigue as well. This goes for ALL Aircraft regardless of age. Twisting this into something other than Preventive Maintenance is just plain wrong. |
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AIR FORCE WORKING TO REMOVE CORROSION FROM F-22A FIGHTER JETS
"Juergen Nieveler" wrote in message . .. "Daryl Hunt" wrote: Newsflash, NDI or Non-Destructive Inspection is part of EVERY Scheduled Maintenance Dock inspection. Yes, they do inspect for corrosion and metal fatigue as well. This goes for ALL Aircraft regardless of age. Twisting this into something other than Preventive Maintenance is just plain wrong. PM is certainly being done - but they are talking about "removing recently discovered corrosion". Woppy Doo. There is ALWAYS "newly or recently formed" corrosion. The exotic metals required corrode and get worse as they age and corrode even more. PM means checking if something is corroded - but this sounds like somebody did PM and discovered that the planes have corroded parts, and that those parts are now being fixed, which is a totally different story. Nope, same story. |
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AIR FORCE WORKING TO REMOVE CORROSION FROM F-22A FIGHTER JETS
"Juergen Nieveler" wrote in message . .. "Daryl Hunt" wrote: PM is certainly being done - but they are talking about "removing recently discovered corrosion". Woppy Doo. There is ALWAYS "newly or recently formed" corrosion. The exotic metals required corrode and get worse as they age and corrode even more. You mean the F-22 corrodes faster than a 1970s Toyota? ;-) PM means checking if something is corroded - but this sounds like somebody did PM and discovered that the planes have corroded parts, and that those parts are now being fixed, which is a totally different story. Nope, same story. So we can agree that there are parts of this brand new airplane that are corroded to the point where they have to get replaced - which means that somebody will have to take a look at the maintenance budget. Corrosion does occur, that's normal - but those planes are HOW old? And need spare parts already? THAT is the real story behind this - the F-22 was supposed to be less maintenance-intensive. I have yet to see a Toyota flying at M.1.5 and 50,000 feet. And NOTHING corrodes faster than an old Toyota. |
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AIR FORCE WORKING TO REMOVE CORROSION FROM F-22A FIGHTER JETS
In rec.aviation.military Daryl Hunt twisted the electrons to say:
I have yet to see a Toyota flying at M.1.5 and 50,000 feet. Put enough thrust behind one and I'm sure it would be possible? And NOTHING corrodes faster than an old Toyota. What about the late-70s/early-80s products of Fiat and Alfa Romeo? -- These opinions might not even be mine ... Let alone connected with my employer ... |
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AIR FORCE WORKING TO REMOVE CORROSION FROM F-22A FIGHTER JETS
"Alistair Gunn" wrote in message ... What about the late-70s/early-80s products of Fiat and Alfa Romeo? Rust: designed by the Japanese, mass-produced by the British and perfected by the Italians. Cheers, Wayne |
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