The joke called TSA

"C Kingsbury" wrote in message
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Your tax dollars at work


Objectively speaking, the #1 job of the TSA is to prevent another
9/11-style
hijacking. While we can argue that Thousands Standing Around is at turns
rude, inefficient, and as kafkaesque as every other bureaucracy, we have
not
had another 9/11. I've traveled ~300k miles commercial since 9/11 so I
know
what a pain it is. Perhaps the TSA has nothing to do with the fact that we
haven't seen another suicide hijacking here.

Also, it's worth keeping in mind that Muslim does not always equal Arab.
Leaving aside the one-off nutcases like Richard Reid, Jose Padilla, or
that
jackass kid from Marin, some of the most violent terrorists in the world
today can be found in the archipelagoes of Southeast Asia.

Some of them were Irish too mainly funded through US organisations. A case
of double standards

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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 19:05:30 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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Above average intelligence?


The opposite, actually.

Your evidence is...???


Kerry's statements.

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Am I to assume that you are below evidence intelligence based on the
statements you have made here?


No.

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Am I to assume that you are below evidence intelligence based on the
statements you have made here?
Typo here.

Change "evidence" to "average".


I assumed that's what you meant.

You gotta be kidding....


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Am I to assume that you are below evidence intelligence based on the
statements you have made here?

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Kerry's statements.

Am I to assume that you are below evidence intelligence based on the
statements you have made here?

chuckle

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Bob Noel
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"C Kingsbury" wrote in message
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"Spockstuto" wrote in message
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Your tax dollars at work


Objectively speaking, the #1 job of the TSA is to prevent another
9/11-style
hijacking. While we can argue that Thousands Standing Around is at turns
rude, inefficient, and as kafkaesque as every other bureaucracy, we have
not
had another 9/11. I've traveled ~300k miles commercial since 9/11 so I
know
what a pain it is. Perhaps the TSA has nothing to do with the fact that we
haven't seen another suicide hijacking here.

Also the law of unintended consequences applies. Every time I pull out my
laptop, remove my belt and take off my shoes while juggling my wallet and
coat and am in other ways inconvenienced (arrive 90-120 mins before flight)
I am forcible reminded of the actions of the enemies of America which have
made this necessary. Hard to imagine much better propaganda for our side.
These new systems and regulations are so powerful in that way that I imagine
this will be a "forever war".

Howard


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Howard Nelson wrote:

Also the law of unintended consequences applies. Every time I pull out my
laptop, remove my belt and take off my shoes while juggling my wallet and
coat and am in other ways inconvenienced (arrive 90-120 mins before flight)
I am forcible reminded of the actions of the enemies of America which have
made this necessary.

Personally, in such sitations I'm forciably reminded of how much I prefer
to take my own plane.

--
Frank Stutzman (who never much cared for the airlines before 9/11)
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Hood River, OR

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Unfortunately, "effective" is also known as "racial profiling". If they
singled out the following for close scruitiny, the legal system in our
country would not permit it:

I should hope not. It's much easier to decide it's worth it for millions of
innocent people to suffer indignities and loss of freedom if *you're*
assured not to be among them. If you have to share the burden, you're more
likely to protest against excessive intrusions.

Young adult and middle age adult non-resident arab appearing men with
Arabic surnames.

Then your profiling will miss Richard Reid (for example), a British citizen
of white and Jamaican descent with a non-Arab surname. (Some people think he
has an "Arab appearance", but if so it's coincidental, as that is not his
heritage.)

This is the profile of the group that committed the 9/11 atrocities and is
the target population for recruiting by terrorist causes.

Pilots also figure prominently among the group that committed the 9/11
atrocities. In fact, the percentage of pilots in the US who carried out the
9/11 attacks is greater than the percentage of Muslims in the US who carried
out the attacks. So if you were to have selected a pilot at random for
screening (without regard to religion or ethnicity), you'd be more likely to
have selected a 9/11 hijacker than you'd be if instead you were to have
selected a Muslim at random for screening (without regard to pilot status).

--Gary

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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Pilots also figure prominently among the group that committed the 9/11
atrocities. In fact, the percentage of pilots in the US who carried out
the
9/11 attacks is greater than the percentage of Muslims in the US who
carried
out the attacks. So if you were to have selected a pilot at random for
screening (without regard to religion or ethnicity), you'd be more likely
to
have selected a 9/11 hijacker than you'd be if instead you were to have
selected a Muslim at random for screening (without regard to pilot
status).


Were the perpetrators of the 9/11 atrocities pilots, or were they terrorists
that had received sufficient flight training for that specific operation?