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On Oct 15, 5:59*pm, Sam Spade wrote:
wrote: On Oct 15, 9:16 am, Sam Spade wrote: So, no one pays for it?- Dunno about you... If you paid for freeware, you were scalped. All the software I use in aviation is certified. *Don't know of any freeware there. And your point being? ATP is free, nobody pays for it is the answer to your question above. |
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The argument electronic v paper is irrelevant. Thats' only the
delivery mechanism. What you're really paying for is the JAD - the Jeppesen Aviation Datbase and the part of it that you want.. The JAD is not just the US. It's got data from every country's aviation facility, or at least the ones that Jepp can acquire (sometimes it costs, sometimes provided by the government, as with the FAA) And every time Jepp gets a new release of data, it has to be validated and verified before it's put into the database. That's both a manual and automated process. There's lots of people involved checking the data. |
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ATPII - there's no info on the web page as to system requirements. Not everyone
uses Windows. |
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Blanche wrote:
The argument electronic v paper is irrelevant. Thats' only the delivery mechanism. What you're really paying for is the JAD - the Jeppesen Aviation Datbase and the part of it that you want.. The JAD is not just the US. It's got data from every country's aviation facility, or at least the ones that Jepp can acquire (sometimes it costs, sometimes provided by the government, as with the FAA) And every time Jepp gets a new release of data, it has to be validated and verified before it's put into the database. That's both a manual and automated process. There's lots of people involved checking the data. Spot on. But, you're wasting your breath in this forum. |
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On Oct 16, 9:14*am, Sam Spade wrote:
You usually get what you pay for. *I don't know of any aviation charities for pilots. What are you talking about? I am not complaining one iota about the program, in fact quite the opposite. The program ATP far exceeds my expectations and the fact that it's free shows that quality can come at a price of being free without the greed of the likes of Jeppeson. Just because you choose not to explore options affordable doesn't take away the value of the program for others. |
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On Oct 16, 8:13*pm, Sam Spade wrote:
Do you realize what you're saying? *That you like having someone volunteer their time and talent to make your hobby less expensive? Would you like me to wash and wax your airplane for you for gratis? If you offered, and did a good job I'd be a fool not to accept. Do I expect it? No, I don't expect anything for gratis, but I won't turn it down. The developer is giving his time and effort to make a program. I (and other users) am giving him our time during the trial and error part. It's a win win situation for all. Not quite sure why you find the current expense of aviation acceptable when there are others doing what they can to bring down the expense of flying and enhancing safety. If I can use ATP to save a couple hundred dollars in chart expenses per year, you can bet I will do it. Just because you use "certified" software doesn't mean it's the best software out there. |
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On Oct 15, 11:05*pm, Blanche wrote:
The argument electronic v paper is irrelevant. Actually it is relevant with regards to expense. If I want to just do local approaches in MS for this month, I can purchase a book of plates for less then 10.00 (I think that's the going price for NACO, Jeppeson is higher I think). That book is certified just as accurate as the electronic version. Takes the same amount of people and labor. I don't use Jeppeson, but they do issue paper charts. Trip to Ohio for NACO plates probably would have costed about 50 to 75 dollars. I don't know the Jeppeson cost, but I am sure it's higher. I can't pick and choose what I want or need on a month to month basis for the Garmin 430 card. The cost for the electronic version isn't justifiable IN MY EYES compared to the paper product. |
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