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buy or rent a 2006 182
Since it looks very much like I will be sans airplane in a week or so, I've
been kicking around options for future flying. My general bad feeling about owning an airplane in Mobile notwithstanding, there's still a chance I could buy another airplane if renting a 2006 Cessna 182T from the local flight school doesn't work out. So I ran a few numbers to see how buying and renting the same model airplane would compare, based on costs here in Mobile: o Rent 100 hrs/yr @ $190/hr. $19,000 Renter's ins., $1M smooth $3,185 (?) Total $22,185 o Buy slightly used '06 182T, fly 100 hrs/yr Engine overhaul setaside @ $12.50/hr $1,300 Fuel, 13gph @ $4.85/gal $6,305 Shelter @ $180/mo. $2,160 Insurance, $1M smooth $3,185 Annual (during warranty) $750 Oil & Filters $100 Cost of money @ 6% on $310K + tax $20,460 Total $34,260 -- Dan ? at BFM |
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buy or rent a 2006 182
("Dan Luke" wrote)
o Buy slightly used '06 182T, fly 100 hrs/yr Engine overhaul setaside @ $12.50/hr $1,300 Fuel, 13gph @ $4.85/gal $6,305 Shelter @ $180/mo. $2,160 Insurance, $1M smooth $3,185 Annual (during warranty) $750 Oil & Filters $100 Cost of money @ 6% on $310K + tax $20,460 Total $34,260 Not sure what your mission is, but: http://www.ionaircraft.com/ Have considered the ION? g I just got a call from Steve, he'd like some help this afternoon. Taxi testing - with canopy on this time, etc. Here's some FunFacts: --------------------------------------------- 1. 99 inch canopy ..... The view will be unmatched! 2. Jabiru 3300 .......... 1/3 the fuel burn of the 182 :-) 3. Airspeed(?) .......... Flight tests later this spring 4. Cockpit noise ...... In theory (until flight tests can verify this) we think it will be relatively quite. 5. Pricing (?) ............. Not sure if that's a pre-OSH or a post-OSH decision? 6. Removable wings!! 7. Chick magnet? Um, sure. The goal is to fly well and look cool doing it. It's designed to be a fun AND capable plane. 8. Quick build times and AFFORDABLE!! Two bedrock principles at ION. (My words, but also, my observations.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- When you order one, it will arrive in your driveway as a primered fuselage with the outside length (run) of each boom needing attaching/sanding the joint/etc. The elevator tail section will require a similar 'sectioned piece' to be mated to the rest of the empennage. Cables and pulleys will have access panels - for you to get in there and do that. The NEW 120 hp engine will come pre-tested from Jabiru. The canopy will come from one of the leading canopy makers in the country - to your driveway. Same with the landing gear. Same with the (removable) wings - like a quick build kit from Vans. :-) 51% rule? Yes! There's still plenty to do even after all the components are delivered to you. On the flip side, the jigging has been done for you - in the form of a delivered fuselage. (Have I mentioned it will be primer'd?) Options: --------------------- Canopy tinting Seat choice Avionics You'll paint the fuselage. Wings polished, or painted? It's a homebuilt - it's yours do equip as you see fit. Basically, get as fancy as you want. I'd like us to play "customer" on ION #2, after OSH, to see how long one will (really) take to ...assemble. That'll be up to Steve. g Montblack I'm off to ION World Headquarters for the afternoon ....or as Steve calls it, the left side of Al's hangar. |
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buy or rent a 2006 182
"Montblack" wrote: Not sure what your mission is, but: http://www.ionaircraft.com/ Have considered the ION? g Cool looking bird, but I need a long range IFR cruiser. -- Dan ? at BFM |
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buy or rent a 2006 182
On May 25, 7:32 pm, "Dan Luke" wrote:
"Montblack" wrote: Not sure what your mission is, but: http://www.ionaircraft.com/ Have considered the ION? g Cool looking bird, but I need a long range IFR cruiser. -- Dan ? at BFM Dan If you are looking for a long range IFR plane, you might want to look at the Diamond Star DA-40. For the price of a 2006 182 you could definitely get anything you want in the used DA-40 market. There are 11 of them on Controller listing from $140s to $200. I rented a couple of DA-40s and was pretty impressed. I really liked the handling and the visibility (seemed a lot more responsive than the SR-20), and they move pretty fast for a 180hp fixed gear plane. When it is time to sell the warbird, I'll deifnitely give them a consideration. Having flown both recent 182s and DA-40s, unless I needed the lifting capacity of the 182, I'd be tempted to go with the more fun plane to fly. http://www.controller.com/listings/f...949231BCEF393B Eric Bartsch 1959 Pilatus P-3 A-848 |
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wrote: \ If you are looking for a long range IFR plane, you might want to look at the Diamond Star DA-40. For the price of a 2006 182 you could definitely get anything you want in the used DA-40 market. Nice plane, but IFR range and useful load are inadequate. -- Dan ? at BFM |
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buy or rent a 2006 182
Dan Luke wrote:
Nice plane, but IFR range and useful load are inadequate. Personally, for long range crusing I would want something faster than a 182. |
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buy or rent a 2006 182
("Dan Luke" wrote)
Not sure what your mission is, but: http://www.ionaircraft.com/ Have considered the ION? g Cool looking bird, but I need a long range IFR cruiser. IFR ION - can do! Will compete nicely with a 182 in speed and distance. Will blow away the 182 in price and fuel economy. AND visibility. (Oh, IFR ......"nevermind") Montblack Taxi test(s) and long run-ups went well yesterday. All 6 cylinders stayed in the green - as predicted. We held our breaths anyway, just in case g. |
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buy or rent a 2006 182
Montblack wrote:
("Dan Luke" wrote) Not sure what your mission is, but: http://www.ionaircraft.com/ Have considered the ION? g Cool looking bird, but I need a long range IFR cruiser. IFR ION - can do! Will compete nicely with a 182 in speed and distance. Will blow away the 182 in price and fuel economy. It's a two-seater. Comparing it to the 182 is pointless. Matt |
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buy or rent a 2006 182
("Matt Whiting" wrote)
IFR ION - can do! Will compete nicely with a 182 in speed and distance. Will blow away the 182 in price and fuel economy. It's a two-seater. Comparing it to the 182 is pointless. I met Dan at OSH, not "Hurricane" Dan and his three buddies. :-) But yes, the 182 can haul way mo fuel to burn.., debt to purchase... Montblack Album: Desire (1976) Huricane - Bob Dylan "Here comes the story of the Hurricane" |
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buy or rent a 2006 182
Dan Luke wrote:
Renter's ins., $1M smooth $3,185 (?) I only pay about $750/year with AVEMCO for $1M renters insurance. |
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