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bush: impossible to be AWOL (do vets give a sh!t)



 
 
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Old September 7th 04, 06:16 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Baldur" wrote in message
news:5A4TQGNB38237.5475578704@anonymous...

So we are agreed that George 'WMD' Bush is a cowardly shirker
who is denigrating the service of decorated combat veterans like
John McCain, Max Cleland, and John Kerry for political purposes.


No, none of that is agreed to because none of that is correct. Bush has in
no way denigrated the service of John McCain, Max Cleland, John Kerry, or
anyone else.


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Old September 7th 04, 08:25 PM
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(Baldur)

The only thing we're arguing is whether Bush should have been
court-martialled for his dereliction.

OK, you lost the AWOL argument now you want to try dereliction of duty? In what
way was he derelict?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old September 7th 04, 09:04 PM
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Dwight Stewart wrote:
"BigRedWingsFan" wrote:

Since you haven't served you have
no knowledge of what AWOL and
desertion actually are so please leave
this discussion to adults that have
worn the uniform of this country.




Okay, I've worn the "uniform of this country" and say you have no idea
what you're talking about. A person in uniform is AWOL whenever that person
is not where he/she is supposed to be. While in uniform, the same
regulations apply to active duty, reserve, and guard.


You have never served in the National Guard, based on this statement!
You are dead WRONG by making thet statement. If you would do a little
research before mouthing off, you might gain a bit of credibility! PLONK


AWOL is a non-judicial offense covered under Article 15 of the UCMJ, while
desertion (including AWOL greater than 30 days) can be either a non-judicial
(if uncontested) or judicial (if contested) offense under that same article.
Punishments for AWOL can range from a written reprimand to loss of benefits,
confinement for up to 90 days, loss of pay for up to 180 days, reduction in
rank/grade, or even Chapter 13 discharge. Punishments for desertion can
range from those associated with AWOL to disnonorable separation without
pay/benefits or confinement up to life (during wartime).

Stewart

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Old September 8th 04, 04:20 PM
B2431
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Date: 9/8/2004 7:46 AM Central Daylight Time
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On 8 Sep 2004 04:14:24 -0700,
(WalterM140) wrote:

"Herb Martin" wrote in message

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"Transition Zone" wrote in message

Anytime you see the word "awol" in this context you KNOW
you are being lied to -- it is technically IMPOSSIBLE to be
awol from the Guard when not activated for Federal service.


The research on
http://www.awolbush.com shows that Bush skipped a
number of drills, was ordered to puntive active duty, and then
declared a deserter when he failed to appear.

Walt


and you are just another lying mother****er.



For someone who has claimed to have been in the military walt has proved time
and again he has no idea how the system works. Should I point out that
deserters tend to not get honourable discharges? He probably wouldn't
understand.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired



 




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