Real certificates!

I requested a certificate without my social security number and the one they
sent had a new date on it. Now when I go to rent a plane I am asked if I
just recently passed my checkride.


"Cecil E. Chapman" wrote in message
. com...
The original date of issue cannot be placed on a replacement certificate.
Expired certificates cannot be issued; however, an expired CFI letter can
be
requested at no charge.

Not a BIG deal,,, but I would kind of like having the original date on
it...
But then again, when I eventually get my instrument rating they will
probably issue a new certificate with the date that I upgraded the
certificate... right????

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Good Flights!

Cecil E. Chapman, Jr.
PP-ASEL

"We who fly do so for the love of flying.
We are alive in the air with this miracle
that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"

- Cecil Day Lewis-

My personal adventures as a student pilot
and after my PPL: www.bayareapilot.com
"Hilton" wrote in message
nk.net...
"The new credit card-sized certificates are made from high-quality
composite
PVC media card stock and incorporate new security features, such as a
hologram of the FAA seal. They will replace the existing paper airman
certificates which can be easily damaged."

http://www2.faa.gov/index.cfm/apa/1062?id=1762

so tell them no.. it's a re-issue to clear the SSAN and offer your logbook
if they request it.,

BT

"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
. net...
I requested a certificate without my social security number and the one
they
sent had a new date on it. Now when I go to rent a plane I am asked if I
just recently passed my checkride.


"Cecil E. Chapman" wrote in message
. com...
The original date of issue cannot be placed on a replacement
certificate.
Expired certificates cannot be issued; however, an expired CFI letter
can
be
requested at no charge.

Not a BIG deal,,, but I would kind of like having the original date on
it...
But then again, when I eventually get my instrument rating they will
probably issue a new certificate with the date that I upgraded the
certificate... right????

--
--
Good Flights!

Cecil E. Chapman, Jr.
PP-ASEL

"We who fly do so for the love of flying.
We are alive in the air with this miracle
that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"

- Cecil Day Lewis-

My personal adventures as a student pilot
and after my PPL: www.bayareapilot.com
"Hilton" wrote in message
nk.net...
"The new credit card-sized certificates are made from high-quality
composite
PVC media card stock and incorporate new security features, such as a
hologram of the FAA seal. They will replace the existing paper airman
certificates which can be easily damaged."

http://www2.faa.gov/index.cfm/apa/1062?id=1762

Cecil wrote:
Hilton wrote:
"The new credit card-sized certificates are made from high-quality
composite
PVC media card stock and incorporate new security features, such as a
hologram of the FAA seal. --

Whoo Hoo!!! Sure glad about that,,, now they don't have to worry about
someone counterfeiting the FAA seal.... (was this really a problem?) :-/

Are you going to order a replacement? I might if I knew that you were!
:-)

Actually I sent in my $2 a few days *before* learning about the new format.
I'll still have the old Commercial and Ground Instructor ones though. I'm
going to try 'earn' a new Commercial certificate sometime soon I hope. You
can have a lot of fun not taking a BFR if you know what I mean.

Hilton

(Squirrel) wrote in message . com...
Larry Dighera wrote in message . ..
If the card-sized certificates had a photograph and magnetic stripe
also, I might believe the FAA had become aware that we are truly
living in the 21st century. :-)

And what purpose would this serve?

As it stands now, the paper certificate serves its purpose;
pronouncing that the named individual has the named privileges and
ratings. Adding pictures, being on composite material, and using a
magnetic stripe won't add any value. The certificate is not meant to
serve as identification.

I like the cardboard certificate's utilitarian purpose.

SM

And...the Social Security card was not meant for identification
either? At least I have one that says so. Just a matter of time before
everyone has a number tatooed on their forehead that can only be seen
by a special light that "only certain government agencies will be able
to use...." Then it won't be necessary to carry ID of any kind.
Before you just poo poo the post, think about it a little. The changes
are inexhorable and inevitable. scares hell out of me but I'll be dead
by the time my grandkids have to figure a way to counter it all.