Who's busted?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

Separation between participating VFR and IFR aircraft in the
outer area is the same as within the Class C airspace proper; target
resolution, 500 feet vertical, or visual.

Can you tell me a little more about what that means? Does "or visual" mean that
adequate clearance exists when both planes have visual contact and miss each
other?

George Patterson
Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot that would
not yield to the tongue.

A Lieberman wrote:

If it was me deciding, I'd blame the pilot. Sounds like he launched
into IFR conditions.

Dan later said the airport is BFM. That's on Mobile bay. Cloud conditions are
usually odd along coastlines.

George Patterson
Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot that would
not yield to the tongue.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
...

Can you tell me a little more about what that means? Does "or visual"
mean that adequate clearance exists when both planes have visual
contact and miss each other?


Only one aircraft has to sight the other one to use visual separation, the
other one just has to be informed that visual separation is being used.
There is no minimum distance in visual separation, it's whatever the pilot
is comfortable with.

I'd wager the local MVA is 2200'.

I'll try to find out.

G.R. Patterson III wrote:

Dan later said the airport is BFM. That's on Mobile bay. Cloud conditions
are usually odd along coastlines.

A while back, I departed a beautiful and otherwise-clear ACK right into a
big mucking cloud sitting on runway heading. The VFRers were taking a
quick turn to stay VMC, but I used this as a good excuse to get my wife
into the clouds for the first time (but brief enough that she'd no need to
be concerned).

[I needn't have worried. Her major concern was getting the trip on video.]

- Andrew