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Flying to Fields near OSH
I unexpectedly have the opportunity to fly to Airventure for a few days. A
friend who has done this before has recommended that I fly to a field near OSH rather than right in to Wittman Regional. I will be flying around the north end of Lake Michigan. Do you have any recommendations for which field I should use? I assume I would plan to camp with my plane if possible. Does that make sense when based away from OSH? Rob |
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"Rob McDonald" wrote in message
... I unexpectedly have the opportunity to fly to Airventure for a few days. A friend who has done this before has recommended that I fly to a field near OSH rather than right in to Wittman Regional. I will be flying around the north end of Lake Michigan. Do you have any recommendations for which field I should use? I assume I would plan to camp with my plane if possible. Does that make sense when based away from OSH? Both times I have flown to Oshkosh, we never saw another plane until we swung into line at Ripon. Go. By all means. Rich S. |
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If you can hold altitude and airspeed, if you can follow logical and
orderly instructions, and can land on the numbers consistently (or say.. a colored dot).. then you would be best just to fly into OSH and camp there.. Now.. if you CANT do the above.. by all means, good luck landing out. But I would vote for camping on the north 40.. no place else compares. Dave Rob McDonald wrote: I unexpectedly have the opportunity to fly to Airventure for a few days. A friend who has done this before has recommended that I fly to a field near OSH rather than right in to Wittman Regional. I will be flying around the north end of Lake Michigan. Do you have any recommendations for which field I should use? I assume I would plan to camp with my plane if possible. Does that make sense when based away from OSH? Rob |
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Thanks for the comments folks. I haven't had my licence long. I think I am
a reasonably good pilot (so does Transport Canada apparently) but I recognize that I have little experience, that was one reason why I was leaning toward flying into another field. The other reason is that I would have more flexibility to leave when I need to, since I understand that OSH is closed for the airshow each afternoon. Rob |
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Yes.. the field is closed in the afternoons, but there is a period of
time after the show where arrivals are not allowed (an hour? I believe) to allow for folks to depart. Either way, I respect you having your personal limits. Good luck and enjoy Osh regardless of how you get there. It is truly unlike anything else you have experienced. Dave Rob McDonald wrote: Thanks for the comments folks. I haven't had my licence long. I think I am a reasonably good pilot (so does Transport Canada apparently) but I recognize that I have little experience, that was one reason why I was leaning toward flying into another field. The other reason is that I would have more flexibility to leave when I need to, since I understand that OSH is closed for the airshow each afternoon. Rob |
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Rob McDonald wrote:
Thanks for the comments folks. I haven't had my licence long. I think I am a reasonably good pilot (so does Transport Canada apparently) but I recognize that I have little experience, that was one reason why I was leaning toward flying into another field. The other reason is that I would have more flexibility to leave when I need to, since I understand that OSH is closed for the airshow each afternoon. Rob I've never flown into OSH VFR, I fly IFR pretty much all the time. However, it was trivial, even when I had an electrical system failure about 20 miles out. The folks providing direction on the ground are good and it was easy to follow directions to the parking/camping spot. Leaving was fairly easy also other than having to file the IFR flight plan a few hours in advance as I recall. I wouldn't hesitate to fly into OSH. Matt |
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I'm a low time pilot too and have flown into both Sun n Fun and OSH a
few times and find OSH to be significantly less stressful... Go ahead and fly into OSH. It's a great feeling! There are a few things you can do to make life easier for yourself: 1) Watch the weather. If there's a crosswind you're not comfortable with, go to Appelton or Fond du Lac instead. 2) Pick your time. Heaviest arrivals are usually around the meat of the day. If you can get in there during the first hour (in particular) or the last hour it tends to be easier (and less windy) 3) Take a second pair of eyes if you can - helps a lot. |
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On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 02:02:54 GMT, Rob McDonald wrote:
Thanks for the comments folks. I haven't had my licence long. I think I am a reasonably good pilot (so does Transport Canada apparently) but I recognize that I have little experience, that was one reason why I was leaning toward flying into another field. The other reason is that I would have more flexibility to leave when I need to, since I understand that OSH is closed for the airshow each afternoon. If you can handle being relatively close to other airplanes and following instructions such as lower gear now, turn base...Maybe make base a steep slipping U-turn to the numbers...now, Land on the number, or a quarter the way down on the dot, or half way down on the circle by flying over landing planes or having them fly over you and actually landing where instructed you should do well. It is definitely not the place for the pilot who only does stabilized patterns. You need to know your plane well enough to be able to do what they tell you when they tell you and where they tell you. Where it gets a bit exciting is when the plane ahead of you slows too soon, or doesn't turn when told...or the guy behind has a stall speed near your cruise... We were listening to the tower from the home builders center and I'll never forget the "Blue Bonanza...put your gear down now....Blue Bonanza, turn base now....Blue BONANZA...TURN... BASE... NOW... AWWWWHH...DON'T GO CLEAR TO THE LAKE! IFR Traffic on VOR 27 watch out for a blue Bonanza with a base near the lake shore... Give him room". (or something to that effect) I wonder who owns a Blue Bonanza? Then there was the time I flew in formation as a flight of two to land on 36. The guy ahead of us landed and then stopped on the runway at the first turn off. OTOH IF you don't mind waiting till 7:00 PM or so to get out, they are very efficient at getting planes out. I'd guess they run 4 to 6 a minute on VFR departures. IF it's on 18 and they haven't changed, they put planes on the right and left sides of the runway alternating sides. It's straight out to 3000 and then you make your turn. Stay in "your lane" and watch for traffic, particularly when you turn will take you across the other lane. The more eyes looking out the windows the better. 36 as I recall is a right turn out at or just prior to the tower...climb to 3000 and follow procedure...or it used to be. It all depends on your comfort factor. When it comes to flying close to pilots I don't know mine isn't a high as it used to be. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com Rob |
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Roger Halstead wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 02:02:54 GMT, Rob McDonald wrote: Thanks for the comments folks. I haven't had my licence long. I think I am a reasonably good pilot (so does Transport Canada apparently) but I recognize that I have little experience, that was one reason why I was leaning toward flying into another field. The other reason is that I would have more flexibility to leave when I need to, since I understand that OSH is closed for the airshow each afternoon. If you can handle being relatively close to other airplanes and following instructions such as lower gear now, turn base...Maybe make base a steep slipping U-turn to the numbers...now, Land on the number, or a quarter the way down on the dot, or half way down on the circle by flying over landing planes or having them fly over you and actually landing where instructed you should do well. It is definitely not the place for the pilot who only does stabilized patterns. You need to know your plane well enough to be able to do what they tell you when they tell you and where they tell you. Where it gets a bit exciting is when the plane ahead of you slows too soon, or doesn't turn when told...or the guy behind has a stall speed near your cruise... We were listening to the tower from the home builders center and I'll never forget the "Blue Bonanza...put your gear down now....Blue Bonanza, turn base now....Blue BONANZA...TURN... BASE... NOW... AWWWWHH...DON'T GO CLEAR TO THE LAKE! IFR Traffic on VOR 27 watch out for a blue Bonanza with a base near the lake shore... Give him room". (or something to that effect) I'd have loved to have been the IFR arrival and be in a fighter. I've always wanted to say "Switching to guns"... Matt |
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On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 15:06:38 -0400, Matt Whiting
wrote: Roger Halstead wrote: On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 02:02:54 GMT, Rob McDonald wrote: Thanks for the comments folks. I haven't had my licence long. I think I am a reasonably good pilot (so does Transport Canada apparently) but I recognize that I have little experience, that was one reason why I was leaning toward flying into another field. The other reason is that I would have more flexibility to leave when I need to, since I understand that OSH is closed for the airshow each afternoon. If you can handle being relatively close to other airplanes and following instructions such as lower gear now, turn base...Maybe make base a steep slipping U-turn to the numbers...now, Land on the number, or a quarter the way down on the dot, or half way down on the circle by flying over landing planes or having them fly over you and actually landing where instructed you should do well. It is definitely not the place for the pilot who only does stabilized patterns. You need to know your plane well enough to be able to do what they tell you when they tell you and where they tell you. Where it gets a bit exciting is when the plane ahead of you slows too soon, or doesn't turn when told...or the guy behind has a stall speed near your cruise... We were listening to the tower from the home builders center and I'll never forget the "Blue Bonanza...put your gear down now....Blue Bonanza, turn base now....Blue BONANZA...TURN... BASE... NOW... AWWWWHH...DON'T GO CLEAR TO THE LAKE! IFR Traffic on VOR 27 watch out for a blue Bonanza with a base near the lake shore... Give him room". (or something to that effect) I'd have loved to have been the IFR arrival and be in a fighter. I've always wanted to say "Switching to guns"... :-)) I've flown the VOR 27 approach with VFR traffic joining final from both the south and VFR base traffic from the north. They used to do it a bit different than at present. I think they changed two or three years ago. It was Eight Thirty Three Romeo, cleared to land 27, watch for VFR traffic from the south up the lake shore and base traffic from the north much closer in. That's where they used to stretch out the spacing "just enough" for you to fit in...if every one did every thing right. OTOH they're kinda sensitive about some jokes now days. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com Matt |
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