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Old May 8th 07, 02:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
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Default Autopilot questions for small GA aircraft

Some questions on autopilots for pilots of small GA aircraft:

1. Do you have an autopilot in your aircraft? If so, how many axes/modes?

2. Which modes do you find yourself using most often, and in what conditions?

3. Do you use your autopilot differently between VFR and IFR flight? If so,
what do you do differently?

4. How much do you trust your autopilot? Have you experienced failures? Were
they inconveniences or did they impact safety?

5. Do you find that autopilots add safety or merely add convenience?

6. Excluding situations in which autopilot is required (autolands, RVSM,
etc.), are there situations in which you prefer not to fly without an
autopilot?

Other comments welcome as well, of course.

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Old May 8th 07, 02:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Default Autopilot questions for small GA aircraft

On May 7, 6:22 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Some questions on autopilots for pilots of small GA aircraft:

1. Do you have an autopilot in your aircraft? If so, how many axes/modes?


Yes, 3-axis and autotrim with heading, nav, and backcourse mode while
holding attitude, altitude, or glideslope.

2. Which modes do you find yourself using most often, and in what conditions?


Enroute altitude mode, nav or heading.

3. Do you use your autopilot differently between VFR and IFR flight? If so,
what do you do differently?


Not really, I fly approaches manually since I don't fully trust the
autopilot's calibration.

4. How much do you trust your autopilot? Have you experienced failures? Were
they inconveniences or did they impact safety?


Sometimes it will track a degree or two off course. Fine for nav, but
less ok for approaches. It's switched off in the past also. It has not
compromised safety because I monitor it at all times.

5. Do you find that autopilots add safety or merely add convenience?


Both. I'd be a lot more tired at the end of a long cross-country if I
had to hand-fly it the whole way.

6. Excluding situations in which autopilot is required (autolands, RVSM,
etc.), are there situations in which you prefer not to fly without an
autopilot?


Pretty much any time I'm doing something other than droning along on a
cross-country. Flying is supposed to be FUN! How much fun can it be
with the autopilot going all the time?

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Old May 8th 07, 03:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Default Autopilot questions for small GA aircraft

Although it's against my better judgment, it appears to be a reasonable
question, so here's my input.

Three axis autopilot with altitude hold. Use heading and nav mode the most,
approach mode as needed.

Use it all the time from 1000 feet AGL until entering the pattern. Use it
for all approaches- this is one time when the work load is the highest, and
it gives more time to check instruments, charts, and configure the plane.

Enroute used exclusively- makes planning, checking charts, communication,
much easier.

It is essential for safety, for the above reasons, along with less fatigue.
I have had an obvious failure of a servo enroute, and had to hand fly for
around six hours, including an ILS approach at an unfamilar airport to near
mins.

It is a critical item for a high performance plane.

In my opnion flying cross country is about getting to the destination as
rapidly as possible without challenges, anxiety, or problems. This involves
having as much airplane as one can afford that gives the maximal amount of
speed, systems redundancy, and capability.

Yes, it is still a lot of fun, and can be extremely challenging, but if I
want a real "flying" experience, I can go up and fly acro- there's nothing
like pulling or pushing g's for a real visceral experience and challenge.

Otherwise, it's autopilot on as much as possible.
"ZikZak" wrote in message
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On May 7, 6:22 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Some questions on autopilots for pilots of small GA aircraft:

1. Do you have an autopilot in your aircraft? If so, how many
axes/modes?


Yes, 3-axis and autotrim with heading, nav, and backcourse mode while
holding attitude, altitude, or glideslope.

2. Which modes do you find yourself using most often, and in what
conditions?


Enroute altitude mode, nav or heading.

3. Do you use your autopilot differently between VFR and IFR flight? If
so,
what do you do differently?


Not really, I fly approaches manually since I don't fully trust the
autopilot's calibration.

4. How much do you trust your autopilot? Have you experienced failures?
Were
they inconveniences or did they impact safety?


Sometimes it will track a degree or two off course. Fine for nav, but
less ok for approaches. It's switched off in the past also. It has not
compromised safety because I monitor it at all times.

5. Do you find that autopilots add safety or merely add convenience?


Both. I'd be a lot more tired at the end of a long cross-country if I
had to hand-fly it the whole way.

6. Excluding situations in which autopilot is required (autolands, RVSM,
etc.), are there situations in which you prefer not to fly without an
autopilot?


Pretty much any time I'm doing something other than droning along on a
cross-country. Flying is supposed to be FUN! How much fun can it be
with the autopilot going all the time?



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Old May 8th 07, 05:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Thomas Borchert
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Default Autopilot questions for small GA aircraft

Viperdoc,

Three axis autopilot


You have a yaw damper?

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Old May 8th 07, 05:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Thomas Borchert
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Default Autopilot questions for small GA aircraft

ZikZak,

3-axis


Yaw damper?

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Old May 8th 07, 10:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe
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Default Autopilot questions for small GA aircraft

"ZikZak" wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 7, 6:22 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Some questions on autopilots for pilots of small GA aircraft:

1. Do you have an autopilot in your aircraft? If so, how many
axes/modes?


...
Pretty much any time I'm doing something other than droning along on a
cross-country. Flying is supposed to be FUN! How much fun can it be
with the autopilot going all the time?


I'm inclined to agree with that. But I've never flown an airplane with an
autopilot, so while it might be nice at times, I can't say for sure. On the
other hand, I can say that I've never felt a desire to have one.

Most of my flying has been GFR - even most cross country. The longest trip I
ever took was from Michigan to Alaska (and back) in a Cessna 120 - and even
that was more about making the trip and not so much about getting there.
(Once there, we just turned around and came back...)

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Old May 8th 07, 02:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Default Autopilot questions for small GA aircraft

On May 7, 6:22 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

Other comments welcome as well, of course.


You're not likely to find many "small GA aircraft" with RVSM or
autoland.

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Old May 8th 07, 02:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
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Default Autopilot questions for small GA aircraft

ZikZak writes:

You're not likely to find many "small GA aircraft" with RVSM or
autoland.


True, but you never know. Someone might be flying a small and expensive jet,
for example.

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Old May 8th 07, 07:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
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Default Autopilot questions for small GA aircraft

Mxsmanic wrote in
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ZikZak writes:

You're not likely to find many "small GA aircraft" with RVSM or
autoland.


True, but you never know. Someone might be flying a small and
expensive jet, for example.


Not, you , of course, since you can't fly.

Bertie
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Old May 8th 07, 02:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Default Autopilot questions for small GA aircraft

On May 8, 1:22 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Some questions on autopilots for pilots of small GA aircraft:

1. Do you have an autopilot in your aircraft? If so, how many axes/modes?


Some of the aircraft I fly do have them. All are single axis. You can
select HDG to follow the bug or NAV to follow a VOR, and some other
modes I haven't tried. One apparently will follow the GPS but I
couldn't figure the GPS out last time I flew that plane. One of the
other club planes, a Twin Comanche has alt hold as well as hdg hold. I
think a couple of our planes have autopilot disconnect switches handy
to your left hand as well.


2. Which modes do you find yourself using most often, and in what conditions?


HDG mode is all I have ever used, when I have trimmed it up and am on
track I sometimes set the autopilot up and sit back and relax.


3. Do you use your autopilot differently between VFR and IFR flight? If so,
what do you do differently?


N/A - don't fly IFR


4. How much do you trust your autopilot? Have you experienced failures? Were
they inconveniences or did they impact safety?


Seems to work OK, just have to remember that if you decide to change
direction the control column will strongly resist you trying to turn
it. Apparently a sharp yank will disconnect autopilot but have not
tried that. Gives you a fright when you go to turn left and it won't
turn!!


5. Do you find that autopilots add safety or merely add convenience?


Using autopilot I am more likely to fly straight along the track
rather than wobbling around like I normally do


6. Excluding situations in which autopilot is required (autolands, RVSM,
etc.), are there situations in which you prefer not to fly without an
autopilot?


I only use it for decent cross country flights, everything else,
including takeoff and landing I switch it off.

 




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