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On Jan 28, 12:35*pm, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote: Dudley Henriques wrote: It's funny about Usenet. I read your post and noted the Cheney reference and didn't take it to be political at all; simply a metaphor to add *a closing touch of humor. I do this myself all the time. Hell, I like Cheney and given that he deer hunts at one of the ranches in TX where I have hunted a time or two and will probably hunt again I can tell you that I will be damn sure I know where his gun is pointing if we are ever there at the same time. Or any hunter. I've not yet met any fellow hunters who find fault in anyone in his situation. It was an unfortunate thing, like an engine failure on short final. Something to give pause but not blame. -Robert |
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Jan 28, 12:35 pm, Gig 601XL Builder wrote: Dudley Henriques wrote: It's funny about Usenet. I read your post and noted the Cheney reference and didn't take it to be political at all; simply a metaphor to add a closing touch of humor. I do this myself all the time. Hell, I like Cheney and given that he deer hunts at one of the ranches in TX where I have hunted a time or two and will probably hunt again I can tell you that I will be damn sure I know where his gun is pointing if we are ever there at the same time. Or any hunter. I've not yet met any fellow hunters who find fault in anyone in his situation. It was an unfortunate thing, like an engine failure on short final. Something to give pause but not blame. -Robert I agree. I've always felt felt that the pickup on the Chaney incident was totally unfair and completely political, regardless of the side speaking out. I'm positive as is anyone who has seriously hunted or handled firearms in their life that Chaney simply made a mistake as many of us have made mistakes. I'm also positive that his concern for his friend's life was genuine and that what happened that day galvanized him so that for the rest of his natural born days, he'll NEVER point a firearm anywhere else but where it should be pointed. Chaney was extremely lucky to be given a second chance. I know about these things as I once made a near fatal error myself and was the recipient of one of those second chances in life. Those who would enjoy the pain of someone as they suffer through an experience like that suffered by Chaney for some political agenda are in my book beyond human feeling as I know it anyway. -- Dudley Henriques |
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
Or any hunter. I've not yet met any fellow hunters who find fault in anyone in his situation. It was an unfortunate thing, like an engine failure on short final. Something to give pause but not blame. -Robert Interesting. All the hunters I know feel the contrary. Shouldn't have happened. Simple failure of firing discipline. Most of 'ems elk, bear, deer and antelope killers tho'. Maybe bird guys are differnt. -- Message posted via AviationKB.com http://www.aviationkb.com/Uwe/Forums...ation/200801/1 |
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Kloudy via AviationKB.com wrote:
Robert M. Gary wrote: Or any hunter. I've not yet met any fellow hunters who find fault in anyone in his situation. It was an unfortunate thing, like an engine failure on short final. Something to give pause but not blame. -Robert Interesting. All the hunters I know feel the contrary. Shouldn't have happened. Simple failure of firing discipline. Most of 'ems elk, bear, deer and antelope killers tho'. Maybe bird guys are differnt. It was a mistake on the VP's part but yes bird hunting is much different than hunting for larger mammals. The main thing is that you are seldom ever doing to be swinging and firing at the same time when shooting at deer not to mention there is usually no another hunter changing position behind and beside you when you are hunting deer, elk etc... Both of those things happen all the time when bird hunting. |
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On Jan 28, 1:19*pm, "Kloudy via AviationKB.com" u33403@uwe wrote:
Robert M. Gary wrote: Most of 'ems elk, bear, deer and antelope killers tho'. Maybe bird guys are differnt. I've not hunted deer before but I'd guess you sit still, eye your target and take your shot when it feels right. When my son was taking his bird hunting class (using clays) they start with their back to the clay launcher. When the clay flys you have to spin around raise your shot gun, aim, then fire before the clay is too far gone. Safey is important and injuries should not happen but I think many hunters thought "but for Providence, that could have been me". Its like the guy who loses his engine on short final. You can blame him for not being high enough, etc but in your gut you're just glad it isn't you. -Robert |
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
be swinging and firing at the same time when shooting at another hunter changing position... behind and beside you Both of those things happen all the time when bird hunting. Yikes. Sounds like fun.....NOT. yeah I can understand the situation. Tight quarters, fast moving targets, beer. ; -] -- Message posted via AviationKB.com http://www.aviationkb.com/Uwe/Forums...ation/200801/1 |
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"John" wrote in message news:i1qnj.1407$e46.78@trnddc04... I admit I'm a bit sensitive lately, it seems like so many of threads degenerate into a political discussion. Yeah, it's that season, I suppose. No worries, and I agree. When I said "pull a Cheney," there's a little backstory there; they're looking for a new place to hunt because right after "the" Cheney incident, one of them was hit by birdshot because some newbie was out there freezing in shorts, and got a little too eager to hit something and go home. To address the question posed: Is this flight to occur during hunting season or is it before the season open? That would be a big question. You would not want to be mistaken for a really big goose It'll be during the off-season. I had the exact concern. I told one of them that unless the plane is named "Memphis Belle" I don't want to be the guy that stirs up the birds everybody's been waiting for all day. -c |
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Kloudy via AviationKB.com wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote: be swinging and firing at the same time when shooting at another hunter changing position... behind and beside you Both of those things happen all the time when bird hunting. Yikes. Sounds like fun.....NOT. yeah I can understand the situation. Tight quarters, fast moving targets, beer. ; -] Just like flying. Never drink until after. |
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gatt wrote:
I don't want to be the guy that stirs up the birds everybody's been waiting for all day. -c Speaking of the inadvisability of stirrin' up hunter-types. Reminds me of some simple wisdom me pappy lay on me one sunny cold day when I was a wee deer hunter. We were hunting for deer, walking down an old logging road, quietly chatting about the relatively low kill count that season. Disease was spreading thru the deer population that year. On our way to a spot we preferred to begin our stalk, a fella up on a nearby knoll started shouting down at us that we were makin' too much noise and go sit our sorry asses down and shut the Fjukk up. He says he had a bead on a buck when we scared 'em away. My pops says quietly under his breath to me, "well if ya had a shot why dincha take it?" Now i'm kinda ****ed at this fella shoutin' at us all impoilte and such and say to my dad, "hey..right dad. Tell him that..you tell 'em..why dint he take the shot?" "sorry, friend!" my dad says "we'll be movin on and keepin' quiet" So now i'm like really confused and ask my pops, "He was a rude redneck dad. Why didn't you lay that one on him about taking the shot?" My dad looks down at me all wise (he had been a cop and later detective in Detroit all my life) and he says, "Because he has a gun, my boy." -- Message posted via AviationKB.com http://www.aviationkb.com/Uwe/Forums...ation/200801/1 |
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrote in message Even if they don't shoot at you they can get your N# and many states have laws against doing just about anything that could be construed as harassing hunters. Good point. I'll check for state regulations on such things. It's going to be in the off-season, though so the main thing I don't want to do is harrass the wildlife. -c |
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