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Frank Olson wrote: Otherwise it's "keep your eye out for deadheads" (and deadbeat boat drivers) - at least in Canada. Yes. One cottage owner was steering his boat into floatplanes to thwart them from landing. He also called and complained that the plane operator was at fault and cutting off his boat. Witness' proved otherwise. He was a summer owner from the US. Tourists. |
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 08:22:11 +0200 (CEST), ET wrote:
Whoever owns the water. How do you determine who does? http://www.seaplanes.org/library/wld.htm Thx! |
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On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:16:16 GMT, Mike wrote:
How do you determine who does? Most bigger lakes are going to be controlled by the state or by a local water authority. The state would be a good place to check first. Yeah, I'm in FL, we have private waters, submerged land leases (marinas, boat docks, etc) and State-Owned (beaches). Will check FL. Private waters I suppose would be trespassing. |
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 07:17:50 -0500, Zebulon wrote:
"Gezellig" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:33:30 GMT, Drew Dalgleish wrote: On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 17:36:24 -0400, Gezellig wrote: Who determines where you can or cannot land one? In Canada it's the pilot. Let's say the State of X is the water owner. In CA, the pilot can land anywhere. Without penalty? In US? Where is the jurisdiction enforced? At least in the Midwest US, most of the lakes are controlled by the US Army Corp of Engineers. They maintain one of more offices in every state around here. FL here, ACoE, Water Management Districts, some FL DEP, State, it's a mess. What got me interested was a poster who was claiming he liked the Icon A5 which is built around the corner from me. http://www.iconaircraft.com/ The statement was he thought it would be neat to be able to fly from lake to lake or whatever, the idea of freedom of access to many waterbodies (the sports, shores, camping, etc). Sounded nice to me as well but practical? |
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On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:51:36 GMT, Mike wrote:
"Gezellig" wrote in message ... Who determines where you can or cannot land one? Whoever owns the water. Anyone have any experience in training and receiving their seaplane certification? |
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On Sep 1, 2:36*pm, Gezellig wrote:
Who determines where you can or cannot land one? Not only do you need to check for permission, more and more lakes are begining to require inspections before putting anything in the water (boats, jet skis, planes, etc). People are really afraid of this mussle problem going around and are very, very afraid of boats, etc spreading mussles from one lake to another. I no longer do much sea plane flying but I'm assuming the lack of "clean" mogas is a hug problem for them. We used to be able to taxi up to the dock and buy gas. Today a lot of the auto gas contains illegal ethanol. -Robert |
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:31:43 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"
wrote: On Sep 1, 2:36=A0pm, Gezellig wrote: Who determines where you can or cannot land one? Not only do you need to check for permission, more and more lakes are begining to require inspections before putting anything in the water (boats, jet skis, planes, etc). People are really afraid of this mussle problem going around and are very, very afraid of boats, etc spreading mussles from one lake to another. I no longer do much sea plane flying but I'm assuming the lack of "clean" mogas is a hug problem for them. We used to be able to taxi up to the dock and buy gas. Today a lot of the auto gas contains illegal ethanol. -Robert The proliferation of jet skis has one positive side. Many marinas now sell premium gas which is usually ethanol free. My plane is an amphibian so I usually just buy 100LL at an airport. Saves the hassle of checking every time. |
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"Gezellig" wrote in message
... On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:16:16 GMT, Mike wrote: How do you determine who does? Most bigger lakes are going to be controlled by the state or by a local water authority. The state would be a good place to check first. Yeah, I'm in FL, we have private waters, submerged land leases (marinas, boat docks, etc) and State-Owned (beaches). Will check FL. Private waters I suppose would be trespassing. Not necessarily. If the owner of a lake takes money or assistance from the state, they may be bound to allow public access which may include landing an amphib. |
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On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:37:44 GMT, Mike wrote:
"Gezellig" wrote in message ... On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:16:16 GMT, Mike wrote: How do you determine who does? Most bigger lakes are going to be controlled by the state or by a local water authority. The state would be a good place to check first. Yeah, I'm in FL, we have private waters, submerged land leases (marinas, boat docks, etc) and State-Owned (beaches). Will check FL. Private waters I suppose would be trespassing. Not necessarily. If the owner of a lake takes money or assistance from the state, they may be bound to allow public access which may include landing an amphib. Yeah, good point, Mike. many do to stock fish, etc. |
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:31:43 -0700 (PDT), Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Sep 1, 2:36*pm, Gezellig wrote: Who determines where you can or cannot land one? Not only do you need to check for permission, more and more lakes are begining to require inspections before putting anything in the water (boats, jet skis, planes, etc). People are really afraid of this mussle problem going around and are very, very afraid of boats, etc spreading mussles from one lake to another. I no longer do much sea plane flying but I'm assuming the lack of "clean" mogas is a hug problem for them. We used to be able to taxi up to the dock and buy gas. Today a lot of the auto gas contains illegal ethanol. -Robert The gas thing is a for sure, I wasn't aware of the mussels issue (FL not sure we have one). Is it some kind of disease Xport? |
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