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The one thing I can say about Bush, is that he was never a communist. I
can't say the same about JFKerry. I don't vote for communists, pinko's, or listen much to people like you who do. Kerry is a decorated WIA veteran. He's not a communist. Step back from the Republican Party Kool-aid. Walt |
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Probably not since OCS is Army, not Air Force.
Next you will be telling us he never went to UPT either. Did not/does not the Air Force have some sort of equivalent to OCS? One that prospective second lieutenants go through? Walt |
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Ya know I really don't know what all the fuss was about here.
Bush skipped out on the last two years of his commitment. That's one problem. JFKerry skipped out of his last 8 months in the war zone (after receiving three scratches in the line of duty). Senator Kerry is a decorated veteran. Bush skipped the last two years of his commitment. Walt |
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"B2431" wrote in message ... Sure, it's OTS. Does it matter how Bush got his butter bars? The fact remains he did. Yes, and he got them the same way other ANG pilots got them. |
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"WalterM140" wrote in message ... Bush skipped out on the last two years of his commitment. That's one problem. The record indicates you're wrong. Again. |
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"WalterM140" wrote in message ... Senator Kerry is a decorated veteran. Yes, he earned some of his decorations. Nobody disputes that. Bush skipped the last two years of his commitment. The record indicates otherwise. |
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Sure, it's OTS. Does it matter how Bush got his butter bars? The fact
remains he did. Yes, and he got them the same way other ANG pilots got them. ANG pilots were direct commissioned? All of them? Walt |
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On 10 Jul 2004 00:27:24 GMT, "ian maclure" wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:53:48 +0000, WalterM140 wrote: I believe that is the first time I have heard of the F-102 as a "safe aircraft"! Were they really? Compared to flying F-105's to Route Package Six, they were very safe when compared to flying an F-102 over Houston. Nice of Walt to provide us a comment about driving 105's to RP VI. But, flying Deuces day or night, in any kind of weather, mostly out over the Gulf in a cockpit you could barely see out of and with an under-powered J-57 doing the pushing was not a piece of cake. Non-responsive. Absent the folks shooting at you and the fact that Air Intercept is usually a regime thats less hazardous inherently than moving mud, both are equally hazardous. High powered jets will kill you for any number of seemingly minor lapses in concentration, judgement, or luck. And things like "Route Package Six" were part of the problem in Vietnam. Why fergawdsake, set up predictable in/out routes for raids. Apparently this is what happened for a long time. Meant the NVA could set up their SAMs and AAA along those routes and concentrate their fire. Willy Sutton was asked why he robbed banks. "That's where the money is" was his answer. Why did we us the routes we did? Because they led to the targets. NVN is a small country. The targets of meaning are clustered in a smaller area of flat land and coastal plains. If you start from A and go to B, there are only so many ways to get there. In the days before GPS, visual nav means finding landmarks like Yen Bai, the "dog pecker", Thud Ridge, Phantom Ridge and the "porkchop" to use as pilotage checkpoints. There were a lot of variations within the theme. We could get to Hanoi from Thud Ridge, crossing from Laos and back out via Laos; or from Laos and out to the Gulf; or from the Gulf and back out feet wet; or from the Gulf and out via Laos. But, eventually you have to get over the target and that's where the defenses are. IBM _________________________________________________ ______________________________ Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com The Worlds Uncensored News Source Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" Smithsonian Institution Press ISBN #1-58834-103-8 |
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