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Old April 1st 15, 09:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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This approach is cleaner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpluCYve9qw&t=5m32s
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Old April 1st 15, 10:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 2:33:12 PM UTC-6, son_of_flubber wrote:
This approach is cleaner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpluCYve9qw&t=5m32s


OK, with full recognition that it's April 1st, an electric ducted fan has some advantages for self-launch in that ~60 knots is right in the middle of the "sweet spot". It could beat any open prop's thrust/Watt ratio at that speed.
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Old April 1st 15, 11:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 5:47:39 PM UTC-4, Bill D wrote:
On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 2:33:12 PM UTC-6, son_of_flubber wrote:
This approach is cleaner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpluCYve9qw&t=5m32s


OK, with full recognition that it's April 1st, an electric ducted fan has some advantages for self-launch in that ~60 knots is right in the middle of the "sweet spot". It could beat any open prop's thrust/Watt ratio at that speed.


I think the best use for this toy would be as a single-use emergency sustainer. It develops 5.5 kg maximum thrust, 12 lbs of thrust... say 10 lbs for hand waving ease.

So an 800 lb gross weight glider with L/D 40:1 requires 20 lbs of thrust to sustain altitude. Add one of these 'toy' engines for 10 lbs of thrust would in turn give the glider an equivalent L/D of 80:1 while the turbo was running. Run it intermittently while flying between thermals. Turn it off and let it cool while you climb in the thermal. Add 2 turbos for redundancy. Run both and you have an intermittent use sustainer. It pushes on the airframe with a force of 10-20 pounds.

Power from Duracells Alkaline batteries. Cheap. High energy density and a long shelf life.
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Old April 2nd 15, 06:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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mmmm power is the typical EDF high perf setup of 12s 5000 Lipos. Full throttle time is ..not much. Overall 3 to 5min with throttle management. 30 sec max at full. Therein is the problem for full size. Full throttle for anything more than 30 seconds will kill those batts. I think this was a Shuebeler fan which is nice fan though.
 




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