Google Groups Beta

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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On Thu, 05 May 2005 04:39:05 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

I'm stuck using Google to access the groups when I'm at work.


why? does your ISP at work does not offer usenet news?


It's because he has an unreasonable employer.

In a previous article, said:
I'm stuck using Google to access the groups when I'm at work.

why? does your ISP at work does not offer usenet news?

"ISP at work"? You've never worked at a company with a real IT
department, have you? Ours doesn't allow anything out of the firewall
without passing through proxies that they can monitor, and that means web
telnet, or ftp only. Not even ssh, which is a royal pain in the ass.


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Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
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that much, because it lends a certain attitude of disdain to what would
otherwise be a mere malfunction. -- Carl Jacobs

On Thu, 5 May 2005 13:09:14 +0000 (UTC), Paul Tomblin wrote:

I'm stuck using Google to access the groups when I'm at work.

why? does your ISP at work does not offer usenet news?

"ISP at work"? You've never worked at a company with a real IT
department, have you?

hmm. I'm root ... :-)

Ours doesn't allow anything out of the firewall
without passing through proxies that they can monitor, and that means web
telnet, or ftp only.

I have the doubtful pleasure to host a site for someone (google translates
it with 'work council') who needs to access the site from within the
company he is working for (Swarovski crystal [1]).

Not even ssh, which is a royal pain in the ass.

you can change the port ssh is using (but you might then violate our
company's usage policy)

#m

[1] their headquarter is only 15 minutes by car away from here.

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In a previous article, said:
On Thu, 5 May 2005 13:09:14 +0000 (UTC), Paul Tomblin wrote:
Not even ssh, which is a royal pain in the ass.

you can change the port ssh is using (but you might then violate our
company's usage policy)

Doesn't help if the only connection I'm allowed to make is to port 8080 on
proxy-server.company.com

Yes, I know how you can tunnel ssh through a web proxy. I don't
particularly want to get fired, though. We have a telnet proxy, and so I
telnet home and use text based news and mail clients there. Which is one
reason why I LOVE mutt and trn and have never been tempted to the dark
side of GUI newsreaders. The other reason is that I can navigate my news
without taking my hands off the home row and grabbing a mouse.

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
Will debug C homework for lap dances.
-- Mike Looney

I'm stuck using Google to access the groups when I'm at work. [...]

Tell your boss to get a clue. As long as you're reading the newsgroups on
your own time, there's no reason you shouldn't have NNTP access on your
work network.

I tried to get the jerk fired, but it didn't work out.

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

why? does your ISP at work does not offer usenet news?

It's because he has an unreasonable employer.

Yeah, he's a cheap *******...

:-)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Thu, 5 May 2005 14:17:23 +0000 (UTC), Paul Tomblin wrote:

you can change the port ssh is using (but you might then violate our
company's usage policy)

Doesn't help if the only connection I'm allowed to make is to port 8080 on
proxy-server.company.com

*ouch*

Yes, I know how you can tunnel ssh through a web proxy. I don't
particularly want to get fired, though.

well, this is a very good point, isn't it?

#m
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

I find it more difficult to track message threads compared to the
previous
format. I think it's a step backward.

Like Jay, I use it at work because I have no NNTP access. I've been
using Beta since it came out and it's been getting better. I think
the biggest problem was learning how to navigate groups with the new
interface. After using it for a few weeks, I finally got it set up so
that I can see the threads easily and navigate the groups that I
follow.

I used to just use the "advanced search" page to read the groups.
With Beta, I actually signed up and gave it the list of my preferred
groups. Like I said, it's not perfect by any standard, but it seems
to work OK once you get the hang of it.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
newsbqee.58276$c24.11487@attbi_s72...
I tried to get the jerk fired, but it didn't work out.

Well, at the very least, you ought to hack the network (to ensure NNTP goes
through) and install a non-web newsreader. That'll show the *******. The
hard part will be getting access to the network without him noticing. Tempt
him with some beer.

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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I'm stuck using Google to access the groups when I'm at work.

why? does your ISP at work does not offer usenet news?

Apparently not. Oddly enough.

try forte. it is free. - www.forteinc.com

You mean Agent. No, wait...you mean Free Agent. Agent costs money.
Outlook Express is free too. So is 40tude Dialog. There are probably
others. But until Jay gets NNTP acccess, all of that is irrelevant.

Pete