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Tire pressure monitor
Has anyone tried using a tire pressure monitor cap in place of a regular
dust cap on a glider tire? There are at least two types - simple pneumatic ones that show green/amber/red or ones with wireless technology to display remotely. I'm thinking the simple one would be really useful provided it will fit within the wheel fairing. I think it would be a non-starter for most glider tail wheels but probably OK for the main wheel. I would appreciate any constructive advice about this especially from someone who has tried it. |
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Phil, do a quick search for TPM. There are good threads with info from 2008 and again in 2017.
I tried three different version and while they worked ok most of the time, all three systems would lose the signal at times. |
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On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 10:07:27 AM UTC-4, wrote:
Phil, do a quick search for TPM. There are good threads with info from 2008 and again in 2017. I tried three different version and while they worked ok most of the time, all three systems would lose the signal at times. Michael - I think Phil is talking about this style: https://www.amazon.com/Pressure-Moni...66788116&psc=1 and not the RF style which would monitor all of your vehicle's and trailer's tires remotely. Uli 'AS' |
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At 13:31 13 August 2019, Phil King wrote:
At 14:07 11 August 2019, wrote: Phil, do a quick search for TPM. There are good threads with info from 2008 and again in 2017. I tried three different version and while they worked ok most of the time, all three systems would lose the signal at times. The only threads I found were about trailer tires rather than glider tires. Anyone any experience of using a monitor on a glider tire Phil King Just a thought if the tyre deflates in flight knowing that fact will it help on landing, you will know what the vibration and noise is about. KF |
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On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 6:45:05 AM UTC-7, Phil King wrote:
The only threads I found were about trailer tires rather than glider tires. Anyone any experience of using a monitor on a glider tire? Phil King The problem with most TPMS systems, at least as they might be applied to a glider main tire, is they screw onto the tube's valve stem. In the limited number of gliders I've owned, there is no clearance for them. I have them on my motorhome and can monitor the glider trailer as well. In that application they make a lot of sense as both tire pressure and temperature are displaced and have set points to trip an alarm. Then I can pull over, check things, and hopefully make necessary repairs before tire pieces depart. The potential advantage for a glider seems about nil to me. In the unlikely event you have a leaking tire, you are going to land with it anyway, one way or another. You are probably not going to roll the emergency vehicles in any case, so the only advantage would be knowing you've got a low tire or flat in advance. Given that unlikely eventuality (I've only ever had a tailwheel go flat), it doesn't seem like a TPMS would be worth the bother, even if the sensor did have clearance to fit. Once had a brake caliper freeze to the rotor on my Husky after playing in the snow off road. I knew about it as the Husky veered off a fair amount on take off from the snow covered road and I glanced at the wheel to see it wasn't turning, basically a ski. Landed back home on the unpaved runway at Minden on one wheel, when the locked-up wheel came down it broke free without fuss. |
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I guess I've not made it clear why I would want a TPM on a glider tire.
My thought is that when checking the glider before flight one action should be to check the tire pressures. This is a time consuming process - find pressure gauge, maybe find extension, take off dust cap, fit gauge (and extension), read pressure, (remove extension,) replace dust cap, repeat for each tire (three tires on some types). Each time you do this you remove some air from the tire and with a small tire this can be significant. Much simpler to look at the TPM and check that it is showing green! For a glider I can't see any advantage in having the wireless sort with a read out in the cockpit. Of course for a trailer it's a great idea. |
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On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 08:31:30 +0000, Phil King wrote:
Much simpler to look at the TPM and check that it is showing green! A search on "tyre pressure monitor cap" shows that shops on Amazon UK sell them - a four-pack costs less than GBP 2.00. They look as though they are a bit fatter and longer than the brass tyre caps on my glider, but at the price its probably worth trying them, even if they do end up on your car or trailer. -- Martin | martin at Gregorie | gregorie dot org |
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At 11:17 14 August 2019, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 08:31:30 +0000, Phil King wrote: Much simpler to look at the TPM and check that it is showing green! A search on "tyre pressure monitor cap" shows that shops on Amazon UK sell them - a four-pack costs less than GBP 2.00. They look as though they are a bit fatter and longer than the brass tyre caps on my glider, but at the price its probably worth trying them, even if they do end up on your car or trailer. Thanks Martin. There are several different types on the market. I was looking for anyone with experience of using them on gliders who could save me the time required to try different ones and find a good one. I've actually bought some rather more expensive ones off eBay (3 quid each). Some of the cheap ones have had very bad reviews because they don't seal well and let the air out of the tyre. If anyone is interested to know how I get on then I can post the results back here in a few weeks time. |
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I believe you are over complicating this.Â* My advice:Â* Just look at the
tires.Â* You can tell if they're too low to fly.Â* That's worked for me for almost 50 years. On 8/14/2019 7:45 AM, Phil King wrote: At 11:17 14 August 2019, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 08:31:30 +0000, Phil King wrote: Much simpler to look at the TPM and check that it is showing green! A search on "tyre pressure monitor cap" shows that shops on Amazon UK sell them - a four-pack costs less than GBP 2.00. They look as though they are a bit fatter and longer than the brass tyre caps on my glider, but at the price its probably worth trying them, even if they do end up on your car or trailer. Thanks Martin. There are several different types on the market. I was looking for anyone with experience of using them on gliders who could save me the time required to try different ones and find a good one. I've actually bought some rather more expensive ones off eBay (3 quid each). Some of the cheap ones have had very bad reviews because they don't seal well and let the air out of the tyre. If anyone is interested to know how I get on then I can post the results back here in a few weeks time. -- Dan, 5J |
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