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Old November 3rd 05, 01:40 AM
James D'Andrea
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Default Glider down near Reno - pilot OK

Apparently went down in high winds while attempting a cross country
wave record.

http://www.krnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4063969&nav=8faO

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Old November 3rd 05, 06:34 AM
TTaylor at cc.usu.edu
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From Reno TV Station:

A glider pilot is in the hospital after he was forced to bail-out of
his plane before it broke apart in mid-air.

Sparks police say Eric Larsen took off in a motorized glider from Inyo
County, California sometime Tuesday morning.

Authorities believe he was forced to deploy his parachute and make a
crash landing due to high winds.

The glider crashed near the intersection of Satellite and Laser Drives.
The winds carried the pilot about two miles and he landed in the
Wingfield area. One part of glider's wings were found a mile north of
the crash site.

Larsen was taken by Careflight to Washoe Medical Center with major
injuries to his legs and lower back. He will be in the hospital for a
few days. His family is from San Diego and are on the way to Reno.

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Old November 3rd 05, 03:48 PM
Frank Whiteley
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Preliminary

IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 26XL Make/Model: AS26 Description: ASH-26E A
GLIDER
Date: 11/02/2005 Time: 1740

Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Serious Mid Air: N
Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: SPARKS State: NV Country: US

DESCRIPTION
ACFT, A GLIDER, ON AN IFR WITH ZOA, WAS ATTEMPTING A WORLD DISTANCE
RECORD.
THE ACFT CRASHED IN SPARKS, NEVADA FOR UNKNOWN REASONS. RENO ATCT
SAW
ACFT DESCENDING AND A PARACHUTE DEPLOY. THE ACFT SUSTAINED
SUBSTANTIAL
DAMAGE AND THE ONE POB IS IN SERIOUS CONDITION. SPARKS, NV

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 1 Min: 0
Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:

WEATHER: NOT REPORTED

OTHER DATA
Activity: Other Phase: Cruise Operation: General Aviation

Departed: UNKN Dep Date: Dep. Time:
Destination: UNKN Flt Plan: UNK Wx
Briefing: U
Last Radio Cont: 17332 392512N/1194442W
Last Clearance: UNKN

FAA FSDO: RENO, NV (WP11) Entry date:
11/03/2005

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Old November 3rd 05, 05:01 PM
Bill Batesole
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Default Glider down near Reno - pilot OK

Any updates on Erik's condition would be appreciated. Thanks



"James D'Andrea" wrote in message
oups.com...
Apparently went down in high winds while attempting a cross country
wave record.

http://www.krnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4063969&nav=8faO



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Old November 3rd 05, 08:56 PM
Kemp
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Erik is resting comfortably, no surgery req. with luck he can go home
in the next few days. He wins the award for being the luckiest guy on
earth (for yesterday). His family members are here, I'll be leaving
later today.

Kemp

Bill Batesole wrote:
Any updates on Erik's condition would be appreciated. Thanks


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Old November 4th 05, 07:38 PM
For Example John Smith
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pirep?


"Kemp" wrote in message
oups.com...
Erik is resting comfortably, no surgery req. with luck he can go home
in the next few days. He wins the award for being the luckiest guy on
earth (for yesterday). His family members are here, I'll be leaving
later today.

Kemp

Bill Batesole wrote:
Any updates on Erik's condition would be appreciated. Thanks




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Old November 5th 05, 12:25 AM
Marc Ramsey
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Here's a snippet from a message that came from Stew Crane (SSA Gov, NV),
concerning the accident:

===
In the Mt Rose wave he found himself climbing very rapidly
again, over 1,000fpm and between lenticulars. What he did
not notice due to canopy icing at the back edges of his
canopy was that he was being blown back into cloud due to
the change in wind direction. He did turn on his artificial
horizon when he realized his predicament but, due to
instrument spin up time, it was not enough. He went full IFR
in an instant without a working horizon at altitude and
probably at or above true airspeed redline. Vertigo ensued
and in an instant he felt the wings snap off, no strong stick
forces, just a snap.
===

Marc
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Old November 5th 05, 05:01 PM
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Marc Ramsey wrote:
Here's a snippet from a message that came from Stew Crane (SSA Gov, NV),
concerning the accident:

===
In the Mt Rose wave he found himself climbing very rapidly
again, over 1,000fpm and between lenticulars. What he did
not notice due to canopy icing at the back edges of his
canopy was that he was being blown back into cloud due to
the change in wind direction. He did turn on his artificial
horizon when he realized his predicament but, due to
instrument spin up time, it was not enough. He went full IFR
in an instant without a working horizon at altitude and
probably at or above true airspeed redline. Vertigo ensued
and in an instant he felt the wings snap off, no strong stick
forces, just a snap.
===

Marc


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Old November 5th 05, 05:01 PM
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Default Glider down near Reno - pilot OK

Marc Ramsey wrote:
Here's a snippet from a message that came from Stew Crane (SSA Gov, NV),
concerning the accident:

===
In the Mt Rose wave he found himself climbing very rapidly
again, over 1,000fpm and between lenticulars. What he did
not notice due to canopy icing at the back edges of his
canopy was that he was being blown back into cloud due to
the change in wind direction. He did turn on his artificial
horizon when he realized his predicament but, due to
instrument spin up time, it was not enough. He went full IFR
in an instant without a working horizon at altitude and
probably at or above true airspeed redline. Vertigo ensued
and in an instant he felt the wings snap off, no strong stick
forces, just a snap.
===

Marc




http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...04X01789&key=1

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Old November 9th 05, 04:46 AM
Guy Acheson
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Default Glider down near Reno - pilot OK

I have some experience with the benign spiral mode.
My previous sailplane was a Grob 104, Speed Astir.
The benign spiral mode was in the pilot's handbook.
It saved my bacon two times where clouds just reached
out and grabbed me. Very scarey when you can't see
anything and your inner ear is giving you all kinds
of bizare information. Very, very hard to keep my
hands and feet off of the controls.

My current sailplane is an LS8 and I can tell you that
the benign spiral mode does not exist. This aircraft
will overspeed and overbank no matter how it is trimmed
if you keep your hands and feet off of the controls.

My message is that you must practice this manuever
many times in various configurations with your particular
aircraft before you should even consider it as a possibility.

For those of you who do not understand how the Tru-trak
would allow you to recover from a death spiral, please
get some partial panel IFR training. The recovery
is the same in all aircraft I have trained in; level
the wings FIRST (this is what the Tru-trak will allow
you to do quickly) and then reduce the airspeed. If
you try to pull the nose up while in a bank you will
only increase the G loads very rapidly and put yourself
in an accelerated stall if you don't break the plane
first.

This is my two cents.

Guy Acheson, 'DDS'
At 16:48 08 November 2005, Raphael Warshaw wrote:
Todd:

Cindy and Marty at Caracole have demonstrated the benign
spiral to me in
both the K-21 and the Duo-Discus. It works in my LAK-17
(15m) at zero flap
with the trim 1/3 aft (wheel in or out) although, like
you, I've never tried
it from near redline or from a spiral dive. It needs
to be practiced, both
to see that it works in your airplane and, recurrently,
so that you really
do (hopefully) stay off the controls in an actual emergency.

Caracole routinely performs the benign spiral as a
training exercise, so
that their students and BFR candidates can experience
it. Perhaps either
Cindy or Marty could be enticed into joining this thread
as they know much
more about this and wave flying in general than I do
and have given
considerable thought to emergency procedures. They
provide serious mountain
wave training BTW, IMHO a VERY good idea before venturing
into the awesome
world of the wave.

Raphael Warshaw
1LK




'T o d d P a t t i s t' wrote in message
.. .
wrote:

Don't delude yourself by thinking that going IFC at
red line in the
Sierra Wave with just a turn and bank is anything like
a Microsoft
flight simulator with a partial panel or an instrument
flight in a
small plane with a partial panel and an instructor.


About once or twice a year, I find myself in the happy
situation of being at the end of a flight and having
10,000'
or more to kill off before landing. About 5 times
I have
used this altitude to try the benign spiral mode in
my
Ventus. Full trim back, full negative flaps, brakes
fully
open and hands and feet off the controls seems to
be
reasonably balanced. I've entered at speeds up to
90 knots,
and have always lost 8,000 or more before having to
take
control for landing. I've never seen excess G's, but
I've
never been in extreme wave conditions during these
tests and
I've never tried this by entering from extreme high
speeds
as one might be experiencing attempting to move out
from IMC
wave conditions. I have seen some 1/2- 1.5 g excursions,
but bank has always remained within 45 degrees.

I wonder if anyone else has tried this in a modern
glider
and wants to report their experience.
--
T o d d P a t t i s t - 'WH' Ventus C
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