C-182 pattern help

I am just starting to fly a C-182T and I was wondering if anyone has
any tips for the settings in the pattern/approach.
I have done most of my hours on C172, but when transitioning to C182 I
noticed that it's hard to get this plane down in the pattern. I enter
the pattern at 17"MP (to slow down) and abeam the numbers I lower it
to 15"MP while putting in 1 notch of flaps and trimming for 90-95KTS.
On base I put in another notch of flaps and trim for 85KTS and the
final notch of flaps on final while keeping 70-75KTS.
My problem is that with these settings the plane is not really
descending until the base to final turn where I need to cut down the
power completely. I would have liked to keep about 15"MP in all the
way to the round-out to make the landing nice and soft.
Any tips?

Thanks.

Check your gross weight vs. speed, I think you're too fast
and need to fly a little slower. You're making flap
extension too big an issue, slow down and put the flaps
down. Pay more attention to the outside world indicator and
aim for the runway.

OWI, windows.



"SilkB" wrote in message
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|I am just starting to fly a C-182T and I was wondering if
anyone has
| any tips for the settings in the pattern/approach.
| I have done most of my hours on C172, but when
transitioning to C182 I
| noticed that it's hard to get this plane down in the
pattern. I enter
| the pattern at 17"MP (to slow down) and abeam the numbers
I lower it
| to 15"MP while putting in 1 notch of flaps and trimming
for 90-95KTS.
| On base I put in another notch of flaps and trim for 85KTS
and the
| final notch of flaps on final while keeping 70-75KTS.
| My problem is that with these settings the plane is not
really
| descending until the base to final turn where I need to
cut down the
| power completely. I would have liked to keep about 15"MP
in all the
| way to the round-out to make the landing nice and soft.
| Any tips?
|
| Thanks.
|

SilkB wrote:
I am just starting to fly a C-182T and I was wondering if anyone has
any tips for the settings in the pattern/approach.
I have done most of my hours on C172, but when transitioning to C182 I
noticed that it's hard to get this plane down in the pattern. I enter
the pattern at 17"MP (to slow down) and abeam the numbers I lower it
to 15"MP while putting in 1 notch of flaps and trimming for 90-95KTS.
On base I put in another notch of flaps and trim for 85KTS and the
final notch of flaps on final while keeping 70-75KTS.
My problem is that with these settings the plane is not really
descending until the base to final turn where I need to cut down the
power completely. I would have liked to keep about 15"MP in all the
way to the round-out to make the landing nice and soft.
Any tips?

Thanks.

Flaps?
Michelle P

Reduce power to 15" farther out. No reason you can't be at 70 kts on
midfield downwind with no flaps. At midfield flaps 20 and reduce power
some more, 12-13". On final either leave the flaps where they are or
use full flaps. Power at about 10" or whatever it takes to maintain
55-60 kts.




SilkB wrote:
I am just starting to fly a C-182T and I was wondering if anyone has
any tips for the settings in the pattern/approach.
I have done most of my hours on C172, but when transitioning to C182 I
noticed that it's hard to get this plane down in the pattern. I enter
the pattern at 17"MP (to slow down) and abeam the numbers I lower it
to 15"MP while putting in 1 notch of flaps and trimming for 90-95KTS.
On base I put in another notch of flaps and trim for 85KTS and the
final notch of flaps on final while keeping 70-75KTS.
My problem is that with these settings the plane is not really
descending until the base to final turn where I need to cut down the
power completely. I would have liked to keep about 15"MP in all the
way to the round-out to make the landing nice and soft.
Any tips?

Thanks.

"Newps" wrote in message
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Reduce power to 15" farther out. No reason you can't be at 70 kts on
midfield downwind with no flaps. At midfield flaps 20 and reduce power
some more, 12-13". On final either leave the flaps where they are or use
full flaps. Power at about 10" or whatever it takes to maintain 55-60
kts.

Does Cessna have any course equivalent to the Beechcraft Pilot Proficieny
Program (BPPP)? (Worth the $$ at twice the price)


SilkB wrote:
I am just starting to fly a C-182T and I was wondering if anyone has
any tips for the settings in the pattern/approach.
I have done most of my hours on C172, but when transitioning to C182 I
noticed that it's hard to get this plane down in the pattern. I enter
the pattern at 17"MP (to slow down) and abeam the numbers I lower it
to 15"MP while putting in 1 notch of flaps and trimming for 90-95KTS.
On base I put in another notch of flaps and trim for 85KTS and the
final notch of flaps on final while keeping 70-75KTS.
My problem is that with these settings the plane is not really
descending until the base to final turn where I need to cut down the
power completely. I would have liked to keep about 15"MP in all the
way to the round-out to make the landing nice and soft.
Any tips?

Thanks.

Matt Barrow wrote:

"Newps" wrote in message
...

Reduce power to 15" farther out. No reason you can't be at 70 kts on
midfield downwind with no flaps. At midfield flaps 20 and reduce power
some more, 12-13". On final either leave the flaps where they are or use
full flaps. Power at about 10" or whatever it takes to maintain 55-60
kts.


Does Cessna have any course equivalent to the Beechcraft Pilot Proficieny
Program (BPPP)? (Worth the $$ at twice the price)

No.

On 2006-09-14, SilkB wrote:
the pattern at 17"MP (to slow down) and abeam the numbers I lower it
to 15"MP while putting in 1 notch of flaps and trimming for 90-95KTS.

That sounds a little high. I fly a Comanche which also has an IO-540,
and I use 15" in the pattern and 12" abeam the numbers. I touch down
with the power off. The last bit of throttle is pretty dramatic. From
12" down to min goes from about 500fpm to 1000fpm+. At 15" and even
with full flaps I might even be able to maintain level flight.

--
Ben Jackson AD7GD

http://www.ben.com/

Ben Jackson wrote:
That sounds a little high. I fly a Comanche which also has an IO-540,
and I use 15" in the pattern and 12" abeam the numbers. I touch down
with the power off. The last bit of throttle is pretty dramatic. From
12" down to min goes from about 500fpm to 1000fpm+. At 15" and even
with full flaps I might even be able to maintain level flight.


I noticed a big change in the difference in the last inch or so of MP
when I went from a 2 blade to a 3 blade prop in my PA24-250. What prop
do you have?

On 2006-09-14, kontiki wrote:
Ben Jackson wrote:
That sounds a little high. I fly a Comanche which also has an IO-540,
and I use 15" in the pattern and 12" abeam the numbers. I touch down
with the power off. The last bit of throttle is pretty dramatic.

I noticed a big change in the difference in the last inch or so of MP
when I went from a 2 blade to a 3 blade prop in my PA24-250. What prop
do you have?

I have the 2 blade "compact" prop. I'm not sure what "compact" means,
other than it's not subject to the AD that has caused many Comanche
owners to go to 3 blade props!

--
Ben Jackson AD7GD

http://www.ben.com/

Ben Jackson wrote:
I have the 2 blade "compact" prop. I'm not sure what "compact" means,
other than it's not subject to the AD that has caused many Comanche
owners to go to 3 blade props!


Okay, that's the compact hub. To go that route with a Comanche 250 you
need an engine counterweight change that I didn't want to mess with. The
3 blade McCauley has worked out for me, I get solid 160kt cruise and better
climb. I've heard that going from 2-3 blade can cost a knot or 2 in cruise
but I didn't see that... I think the new APP cowling helped.