Garmin530 and MX20

In an article at http://avionicswest.com/archive/shootout.htm#2003 about
Garmin 530 vs CNX-80, many of the pilots said that they would want a
combination of a Garmin 530 AND an MX20. I do not understand. Isn't
the Garmin 530 also an MFD capable of displaying multiple inputs, like
weather and terrain? Can someone tell me why both might be desirable?
Does anyone have experience with an MX20?

-Sami

Sami,
have you had a chance to see a MX20 working in an airplane?
There are MFD's and then there is the MX20.
Awsome resolution. The garmin 530 is not a real MFD, you can get a module to
display weather, it can display traffic using the garmin 330 transponder,
but the MX20 displays what you see on a sectional, with probably better
detail. It can also display approach charts and a variety of other things.
The MX20 is not a GPS, it needs a GPS like a 430/530 or CNX-80 connected to
it. But it can do everything else. the color and detail on the mx20 is
awsome.

Jeff
http://www.turboarrow3.com

"O. Sami Saydjari" wrote:

In an article at http://avionicswest.com/archive/shootout.htm#2003 about
Garmin 530 vs CNX-80, many of the pilots said that they would want a
combination of a Garmin 530 AND an MX20. I do not understand. Isn't
the Garmin 530 also an MFD capable of displaying multiple inputs, like
weather and terrain? Can someone tell me why both might be desirable?
Does anyone have experience with an MX20?

-Sami

I've never flown an MX20 so I can't comment on that. But
I would say that if you don't need the display area of the
530 (which you don't if you have an MX20) then you could
save $5K or so and go with a 430. You get all the same features
for less $$$ and panel space. (Actually there's ONE useful
feature you don't get, which is the auto-identification and
auto-"DME" from VORs, which is a very nice feature but
not indispensible).

John

"O. Sami Saydjari" wrote in message
...
In an article at http://avionicswest.com/archive/shootout.htm#2003 about
Garmin 530 vs CNX-80, many of the pilots said that they would want a
combination of a Garmin 530 AND an MX20. I do not understand. Isn't
the Garmin 530 also an MFD capable of displaying multiple inputs, like
weather and terrain? Can someone tell me why both might be desirable?
Does anyone have experience with an MX20?

-Sami

Yeah.

I haven't flown behind an MX20, but the Garmin. Well. Its got 8 colors. Count 'em. You don't get terrain worth diddley with that. The MX20 will show you sectional-chart-style terrrain and instrument approach plates. And airport diagrams (with your location on them) so you can't get lost.

I have heard, however, that the MX20 is not as sunlight-readable as the Garmin display.


O. Sami Saydjari wrote:


In an article at http://avionicswest.com/archive/shootout.htm#2003 about
Garmin 530 vs CNX-80, many of the pilots said that they would want a
combination of a Garmin 530 AND an MX20. I do not understand. Isn't
the Garmin 530 also an MFD capable of displaying multiple inputs, like
weather and terrain? Can someone tell me why both might be desirable?
Does anyone have experience with an MX20?

-Sami

that MX20 is on my list to get in about 6 months, if it had a built in GPS I
would have got it over the 430 in a heart beat.

John Harper wrote:

I've never flown an MX20 so I can't comment on that. But
I would say that if you don't need the display area of the
530 (which you don't if you have an MX20) then you could
save $5K or so and go with a 430. You get all the same features
for less $$$ and panel space. (Actually there's ONE useful
feature you don't get, which is the auto-identification and
auto-"DME" from VORs, which is a very nice feature but
not indispensible).

John

"O. Sami Saydjari" wrote in message
...
In an article at http://avionicswest.com/archive/shootout.htm#2003 about
Garmin 530 vs CNX-80, many of the pilots said that they would want a
combination of a Garmin 530 AND an MX20. I do not understand. Isn't
the Garmin 530 also an MFD capable of displaying multiple inputs, like
weather and terrain? Can someone tell me why both might be desirable?
Does anyone have experience with an MX20?

-Sami

We have a Garmin 430 and an MX20 and they work really well together. The
terrain display on the MX20 is great, and the resolution on VFR and IFR
charts is sharp and the map's easily readable in direct sunlight. The MX20
is easy to use and configure, and really enhances the capabilities of the
430. I'd only go for a 530 if there wasn't enough space in the panel.
Never seen a CNX80 in action, but it sounds like an enhanced 430. Still,
UPSAT (and now, of course, Garmin) has been marketing the CNX80/MX20 combo.
Go figure, they want to sell 2 boxes instead of 1!!


"O. Sami Saydjari" wrote in message
...
In an article at http://avionicswest.com/archive/shootout.htm#2003 about
Garmin 530 vs CNX-80, many of the pilots said that they would want a
combination of a Garmin 530 AND an MX20. I do not understand. Isn't
the Garmin 530 also an MFD capable of displaying multiple inputs, like
weather and terrain? Can someone tell me why both might be desirable?
Does anyone have experience with an MX20?

-Sami

Thanks. Interesting. So, does one send the Garmin 430 GPS information
to the MX20 and have it displayed there? I would prefer to have one
integrated display of nav and weather information. If so, then it seems
that the garmin 430 display space is a waste of valuable panel
real-estate. If not, how are the two different displays used
differently? Seems like it adds to workload that way to have to monitor
2 screens.

On a separate note, what sort of weather modules exist to feed-into
these displays. I here they are available, but I can not find them on
the garmin website. I am looking to learn about 1 or 2 options of such
modules that uplink to satellites and download weather, and displays it
on the MFD. I would like to know ballpark cost of the module, panel
real estate requirements, and what the cost of a subscription would be.

-sami

Windecks wrote:

We have a Garmin 430 and an MX20 and they work really well together. The
terrain display on the MX20 is great, and the resolution on VFR and IFR
charts is sharp and the map's easily readable in direct sunlight. The MX20
is easy to use and configure, and really enhances the capabilities of the
430. I'd only go for a 530 if there wasn't enough space in the panel.
Never seen a CNX80 in action, but it sounds like an enhanced 430. Still,
UPSAT (and now, of course, Garmin) has been marketing the CNX80/MX20 combo.
Go figure, they want to sell 2 boxes instead of 1!!


"O. Sami Saydjari" wrote in message
...

In an article at http://avionicswest.com/archive/shootout.htm#2003 about
Garmin 530 vs CNX-80, many of the pilots said that they would want a
combination of a Garmin 530 AND an MX20. I do not understand. Isn't
the Garmin 530 also an MFD capable of displaying multiple inputs, like
weather and terrain? Can someone tell me why both might be desirable?
Does anyone have experience with an MX20?

-Sami

the garmin 430/530 is suppose to have a terrain data base that is suppose to be out soon, it wont be as good as the MX20, but for a 500$ upgrade, it could be worth it.

"Fred E. Pate" wrote:

Yeah.

I haven't flown behind an MX20, but the Garmin. Well. Its got 8 colors. Count 'em. You don't get terrain worth diddley with that. The MX20 will show you sectional-chart-style terrrain and instrument approach plates. And airport diagrams (with your location on them) so you can't get lost.

I have heard, however, that the MX20 is not as sunlight-readable as the Garmin display.

O. Sami Saydjari wrote:


In an article at http://avionicswest.com/archive/shootout.htm#2003 about
Garmin 530 vs CNX-80, many of the pilots said that they would want a
combination of a Garmin 530 AND an MX20. I do not understand. Isn't
the Garmin 530 also an MFD capable of displaying multiple inputs, like
weather and terrain? Can someone tell me why both might be desirable?
Does anyone have experience with an MX20?

-Sami

the garmin weather module is here
http://www.garmin.com/products/gdl49/

it sends weather overlay to the GPS.

having 2 gps's gives you the ability to have like an arrival procedure on one
GPS, say the 430, then you canhave the actual approach on the MX20.

but you can go cheaper since the mx20 is such an awsome product, and get a small
cheaper ifr certified GPS, connect it to the MX20 and get the same information
that a 430 would supply to it. Having 2 GPS's is really nice, I have my 430 and
still use my handheld 295. But this is only a temp solution untill I get the MX20
installed (after I get my wife another horse)


"O. Sami Saydjari" wrote:

Thanks. Interesting. So, does one send the Garmin 430 GPS information
to the MX20 and have it displayed there? I would prefer to have one
integrated display of nav and weather information. If so, then it seems
that the garmin 430 display space is a waste of valuable panel
real-estate. If not, how are the two different displays used
differently? Seems like it adds to workload that way to have to monitor
2 screens.

On a separate note, what sort of weather modules exist to feed-into
these displays. I here they are available, but I can not find them on
the garmin website. I am looking to learn about 1 or 2 options of such
modules that uplink to satellites and download weather, and displays it
on the MFD. I would like to know ballpark cost of the module, panel
real estate requirements, and what the cost of a subscription would be.

-sami

Windecks wrote:

We have a Garmin 430 and an MX20 and they work really well together. The
terrain display on the MX20 is great, and the resolution on VFR and IFR
charts is sharp and the map's easily readable in direct sunlight. The MX20
is easy to use and configure, and really enhances the capabilities of the
430. I'd only go for a 530 if there wasn't enough space in the panel.
Never seen a CNX80 in action, but it sounds like an enhanced 430. Still,
UPSAT (and now, of course, Garmin) has been marketing the CNX80/MX20 combo.
Go figure, they want to sell 2 boxes instead of 1!!


"O. Sami Saydjari" wrote in message
...

In an article at http://avionicswest.com/archive/shootout.htm#2003 about
Garmin 530 vs CNX-80, many of the pilots said that they would want a
combination of a Garmin 530 AND an MX20. I do not understand. Isn't
the Garmin 530 also an MFD capable of displaying multiple inputs, like
weather and terrain? Can someone tell me why both might be desirable?
Does anyone have experience with an MX20?

-Sami

Ironic. UPSAT built exactly that MX20 with internal GPS for the
famous Capstone project, but the unit isn't available to us civilians.
---JRC---

"Jeff" wrote in message =
...
that MX20 is on my list to get in about 6 months, if it had a built in =
GPS I
would have got it over the 430 in a heart beat.