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Old March 19th 07, 03:32 PM posted to rec.scouting.usa,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,alt.disasters.aviation
Fred Goodwin, CMA
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Scouts have bumpy landing

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Web Posted: 03/18/2007 01:39 AM CDT

Chuck McCollough
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Three Boy Scouts and their pilot walked away from a hard landing at
Hondo Municipal Airport on Saturday after part of the plane's landing
gear failed to lock in place, witnesses said.
"I'm glad to be down safe. I was really scared after I saw part of the
wheel fall off," said 12-year-old Eric Riegel.

He and fellow scouts Nathaniel Mayberry, 13, and Kirby Vandervort, 10,
all of Houston, were flying with pilot Thomas Skiles to earn their
aviation merit badges.

Dozens of other Scouts were present when the airplane started its
landing approach and it became apparent something was wrong, said
Nathaniel Mayberry's father, Luther Mayberry.

"My son and the other boys were on one of the last round of flights,
and we were on the tarmac watching the plane coming in when I sensed
something was not well, something was out of place," the father said.
"The wheels did not come down all the way and the pilot circled at
least once.

"As he came in for the belly landing, the emergency vehicles raced
toward the airplane, and I did, too."

Luther Mayberry, as he put it, "ran faster than I ever have before" as
his son, the other Scouts and the pilot quickly escaped the plane.

There was no fire.

Seconds before the plane came down, Riegel said, the pilot told his
passengers he would land on the grass next to the runway.

"Then there was a hard thump when we hit, and we got out fast. It was
about five minutes between the time we knew the landing gear wasn't
working and when we got down. It was really scary," the boy said.

Airport manager Timothy Fousee said a lever that locks the landing
gear in place malfunctioned. He said the Federal Aviation
Administration is reviewing the incident.

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Old March 19th 07, 04:22 PM posted to rec.scouting.usa,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,alt.disasters.aviation
Mxsmanic
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Fred Goodwin, CMA writes:

Airport manager Timothy Fousee said a lever that locks the landing
gear in place malfunctioned.


Or it was improperly maintained.

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Old March 19th 07, 04:40 PM posted to rec.scouting.usa,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,alt.disasters.aviation
Tim
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Fred Goodwin, CMA writes:


Airport manager Timothy Fousee said a lever that locks the landing
gear in place malfunctioned.



Or it was improperly maintained.


So you're an A&P or NTSB investigator now? Do they have game
simulations for maintaining aircraft? What do you know about GA plane
maintenance?

Did your gear fail in your baron ever? Oh, that's right, you can't try
that scenario in your game.
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Old March 19th 07, 05:09 PM posted to rec.scouting.usa,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,alt.disasters.aviation
Mxsmanic
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Tim writes:

So you're an A&P or NTSB investigator now?


Just as much as you are.

Did your gear fail in your baron ever?


Yes, occasionally.

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Old March 20th 07, 05:42 PM posted to rec.scouting.usa,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,alt.disasters.aviation
J. F. Cornwall
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Tim wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote:

Fred Goodwin, CMA writes:


Airport manager Timothy Fousee said a lever that locks the landing
gear in place malfunctioned.




Or it was improperly maintained.


So you're an A&P or NTSB investigator now? Do they have game
simulations for maintaining aircraft? What do you know about GA plane
maintenance?

Did your gear fail in your baron ever? Oh, that's right, you can't try
that scenario in your game.


Technically, M's comment is quite correct. It could have been a
malfunction OR it could have been improperly maintained. OR both. OR
neither. M did not say it *WAS* improperly maintained... Nor am I,
since I have no idea. Just picking at the bare bones Boolean logic of
the statements.

Jim
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Old March 20th 07, 07:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
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"J. F. Cornwall" wrote in news:E9ULh.24700$mJ1.4486
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Tim wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote:

Fred Goodwin, CMA writes:


Airport manager Timothy Fousee said a lever that locks the landing
gear in place malfunctioned.



Or it was improperly maintained.


So you're an A&P or NTSB investigator now? Do they have game
simulations for maintaining aircraft? What do you know about GA

plane
maintenance?

Did your gear fail in your baron ever? Oh, that's right, you can't

try
that scenario in your game.


Technically, M's comment is quite correct.


No, it isn't..

Bertie
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Old March 21st 07, 08:41 PM posted to rec.scouting.usa,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,alt.disasters.aviation
mike regish
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Default Scouts have bumpy landing

Or it was improperly maintained.

mike
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"Tim" wrote in message
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Fred Goodwin, CMA writes:


Airport manager Timothy Fousee said a lever that locks the landing
gear in place malfunctioned.



Or it was improperly maintained.


So you're an A&P or NTSB investigator now? Do they have game simulations
for maintaining aircraft? What do you know about GA plane maintenance?

Did your gear fail in your baron ever? Oh, that's right, you can't try
that scenario in your game.



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Old March 19th 07, 09:07 PM posted to rec.scouting.usa,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,alt.disasters.aviation
M. Fricker
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Airport manager Timothy Fousee said a lever that locks the landing
gear in place malfunctioned.


Or it was improperly maintained.


No, the airport manager didn't say that.

However, many things that are not properly maintained do malfunction, so
it might be "And it was not maintained", but the airport manager didn't
say that either.

In any case it really doesn't matter to the people reading this does it.
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Old March 20th 07, 02:18 AM posted to rec.scouting.usa,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,alt.disasters.aviation
Mxsmanic
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M. Fricker writes:

No, the airport manager didn't say that.


The airport manager is no more qualified to determine the state of maintenance
of the gear than I am.

In any case it really doesn't matter to the people reading this does it.


It might. GA aircraft suffer far more incidents and accidents than commercial
airliners. One reason is less rigorous maintenance. It's important to make
it clear that much of the additional risk of flying in GA aircraft is
avoidable, and very often GA accidents are avoidable instances of simple
carelessness (or recklessness) on the part of flight crews or aircraft owners.

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Old March 20th 07, 02:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_2_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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M. Fricker writes:

No, the airport manager didn't say that.


The airport manager is no more qualified to determine the state of
maintenance of the gear than I am.

In any case it really doesn't matter to the people reading this does
it.


It might. GA aircraft suffer far more incidents and accidents than
commercial airliners. One reason is less rigorous maintenance.


Mostly it's because they outnumber commercial aircraft by a huge margin,
fjukkwit.



Bertie
 




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