Scouts have bumpy landing

Shouldn't have gone for the grass if there was pavement available.

mike

"Fred Goodwin, CMA" wrote in message
s.com...

Seconds before the plane came down, Riegel said, the pilot told his
passengers he would land on the grass next to the runway.

Or it was improperly maintained.

mike
ASEL

"Tim" wrote in message
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Fred Goodwin, CMA writes:


Airport manager Timothy Fousee said a lever that locks the landing
gear in place malfunctioned.


Or it was improperly maintained.


So you're an A&P or NTSB investigator now? Do they have game simulations
for maintaining aircraft? What do you know about GA plane maintenance?

Did your gear fail in your baron ever? Oh, that's right, you can't try
that scenario in your game.

"James Sleeman" wrote in message
ps.com...

I thought that too. When flying a retract that won't let the gear
down I always thought the preferred landing places were in this order

Best...........: sealed runway
Less Good......: grass runway
Really Bad Day.: anything else

You forgot
Softest, cheapest thing

mike

"mike regish" wrote in
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Shouldn't have gone for the grass if there was pavement available.


Quite so. I worked for a place a long time ago that had a 99 land wheels
up., He opted for the grass next to the runway and bent the airplane beyond
repair. A small depression in the grass bent the airplane's back. Very
rough for the pax as well, but there were no injuries...



Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote:
"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com writes:


I wish you would go to a medical forum and argue with doctors about symptoms
and prognosis, it would be a damn hoot.


I usually agree with people who know what they are talking about, so there
isn't much to argue about with doctors. With non-doctors, on the other hand,
there's often a lot to discuss. Medicine is filled with urban legends.

Interestingly, one way to recognize true experts (in medicine or anything
else) is that they will occasionally say "I don't know," if they don't know.
Non-experts trying to pass themselves off as experts are very afraid to ever
say this, lest their cover be blown.


Is there anything you don't know?
Were you ever wrong about anything?

Tim writes:

Is there anything you don't know?

Many things, but I don't generally discuss things that I don't know, unless
I'm asking questions.

Were you ever wrong about anything?

Many times, but I'm more often right than wrong, for the reason stated above.

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Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Tim writes:

Is there anything you don't know?

Many things, but I don't generally discuss things that I don't know,
unless I'm asking questions.

Were you ever wrong about anything?

Many times, but I'm more often right than wrong, for the reason stated
above.

haven't seen you say anything accurate yet,


Wuss


bertie

The pilot landed successfully without doing a lot of damage to the
airplane or hurting anyone. Saying he should have landed on the
pavement rather than the grass is rather ridiculous considering the
fine outcome of this emergency. Kudos to the pilot.

Seconds before the plane came down, Riegel said, the pilot told his
passengers he would land on the grass next to the runway.

Shouldn't have gone for the grass if there was pavement available.

You may well be right, and that is my prejudice as well, since current
recommendations do seem to favor the pavement--except for seaplanes.
However, this topic has been a favorite subject hangar flying sessions since
before I was born; and will most probably continue as long as there are
aircraft with retractable wheels.

The part that botheres me is that I can recall nothing in this thread, or
any link given, which actually stated the aircraft type or the position of
the undercarriage as known to the pilot. So there is reason to suppose that
this entire debate occurred without most of the contributors having any idea
what they were talking about. (Rant omitted)

BTW, a brief search, based on the pilot's name, determined that the aircraft
was N-1068B, a Mooney M20A. The preliminary report stated that damage was
minor, there were no injuries, and the description was: "ACFT LANDED GEAR
UP, HONDO, TX."

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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...
The hard vs. soft argument is long debated. It's probably actually
a wash.
...

Well, given that gear up landings in smaller G.A. aircraft are generally
non-events (except for repair costs) I think you are right.

Whatever surface you land on, taxiing back to the hanger seems to be
difficult though.

On the other hand, you do get to look forward to a fresh overhaul, eh?

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Geoff
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