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"Jawbreaker" Lost at Sun N Fun
I am told that the Glasair that crashed (fortunately not fatal) at SNF
Sunday was the beautiful, highly-modofoed Galsair III, "Jawbreaker," that is featured in the April Sprot Aviation. The apparently stalled, dropped a wing and turned over. This plane was absolutely gorgeous! The had re-engineered it to take a Lycoming IO-720, modified to 450 hp. Such a shame! |
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"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
news I am told that the Glasair that crashed (fortunately not fatal) at SNF Sunday was the beautiful, highly-modofoed Galsair III, "Jawbreaker," that is featured in the April Sprot Aviation. The apparently stalled, dropped a wing and turned over. This plane was absolutely gorgeous! The had re-engineered it to take a Lycoming IO-720, modified to 450 hp. Such a shame! Indeed, I was just reading that article the other night...drooling the entire time! Damn fine looking airplane. Glad it wasn't fatal. Jay Beckman Student Pilot - KCHD 12.8 Hrs ... Nowhere to go but up! |
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This is brings to mind the loss of an old acquaintance, Ben Moyel, at KSOH
several years ago. I also own a GIII 330HP http://members.cox.net/n30sx/ that is modified from plan. I did have one observation from the pictures in Sport Aviation and that is that the horizontal looks very small, at least in comparison to my AC. This may be just the result of the perspective form the picture as I have not seen Jawbreaker in person. Any comments? "Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message news I am told that the Glasair that crashed (fortunately not fatal) at SNF Sunday was the beautiful, highly-modofoed Galsair III, "Jawbreaker," that is featured in the April Sprot Aviation. The apparently stalled, dropped a wing and turned over. This plane was absolutely gorgeous! The had re-engineered it to take a Lycoming IO-720, modified to 450 hp. Such a shame! |
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I am a Glasair I RG owner, I saw Jawbreaker last year at SNF.... I did not
notice that the tail feathers looked any smaller than that of any other GIII, although I must admit tail size was not something that I paid much attention to. Russell Sherwood Houston, TX "Greg Siemon" wrote in message news:beZhc.28418$L75.22476@fed1read06... This is brings to mind the loss of an old acquaintance, Ben Moyel, at KSOH several years ago. I also own a GIII 330HP http://members.cox.net/n30sx/ that is modified from plan. I did have one observation from the pictures in Sport Aviation and that is that the horizontal looks very small, at least in comparison to my AC. This may be just the result of the perspective form the picture as I have not seen Jawbreaker in person. Any comments? |
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The GIII that crashed had a normal size tail. From my conversations with the
owner most modifications were confined to the engine mount, cowling, and engine. Bruce www.glasair.org "Greg Siemon" wrote in message news:beZhc.28418$L75.22476@fed1read06... This is brings to mind the loss of an old acquaintance, Ben Moyel, at KSOH several years ago. I also own a GIII 330HP http://members.cox.net/n30sx/ that is modified from plan. I did have one observation from the pictures in Sport Aviation and that is that the horizontal looks very small, at least in comparison to my AC. This may be just the result of the perspective form the picture as I have not seen Jawbreaker in person. Any comments? "Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message news I am told that the Glasair that crashed (fortunately not fatal) at SNF Sunday was the beautiful, highly-modofoed Galsair III, "Jawbreaker," that is featured in the April Sprot Aviation. The apparently stalled, dropped a wing and turned over. This plane was absolutely gorgeous! The had re-engineered it to take a Lycoming IO-720, modified to 450 hp. Such a shame! |
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http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...21X00493&key=1
"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message news I am told that the Glasair that crashed (fortunately not fatal) at SNF Sunday was the beautiful, highly-modofoed Galsair III, "Jawbreaker," that is featured in the April Sprot Aviation. The apparently stalled, dropped a wing and turned over. This plane was absolutely gorgeous! The had re-engineered it to take a Lycoming IO-720, modified to 450 hp. Such a shame! |
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Greg Siemon wrote:
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...21X00493&key=1 "Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message news I am told that the Glasair that crashed (fortunately not fatal) at SNF Sunday was the beautiful, highly-modofoed Galsair III, "Jawbreaker," that is featured in the April Sprot Aviation. The apparently stalled, dropped a wing and turned over. This plane was absolutely gorgeous! The had re-engineered it to take a Lycoming IO-720, modified to 450 hp. Such a shame! Gee, now I kind of wonder _why_ it stalled on takeoff. Obviously not a lack of power. Anybody want to take a wild guess at the wing loading? |
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Gee, now I kind of wonder _why_ it stalled on takeoff. Obviously not a lack of power. Anybody want to take a wild guess at the wing loading? There's no wonder in that, it got too slow. And as heavy as that plane is, the stall speed is higher. It weighs in 500lbs heavier than a stock Glasair 3. That would definitely raise the stall speed. A stock Glasair 3 should wiegh in the neighborhood of 1,600lbs empty. The articals I read about Jawbreaker listed it's empty weight at 2100lbs. |
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Richard Lamb wrote:
Greg Siemon wrote: http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...21X00493&key=1 "Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message news I am told that the Glasair that crashed (fortunately not fatal) at SNF Sunday was the beautiful, highly-modofoed Galsair III, "Jawbreaker," that is featured in the April Sprot Aviation. The apparently stalled, dropped a wing and turned over. This plane was absolutely gorgeous! The had re-engineered it to take a Lycoming IO-720, modified to 450 hp. Such a shame! Gee, now I kind of wonder _why_ it stalled on takeoff. Obviously not a lack of power. Anybody want to take a wild guess at the wing loading? "Obviously not a lack of power" Why not? With more power it could have climbed at the rate of climb he was doing without the angle of attack. I remember people talking about Swift 85hp, Monney 150hp, Comanche 180 and others. People said they needed more power. Well did they? No. The airplanes would do what they were intended to do. To do more you would need more poweer. Now my "well did they" would be "yes" if you wanted to do more than were intended to do. |
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Tedstriker writes:
There's no wonder in that, it got too slow. And as heavy as that plane is, the stall speed is higher. According to the article on Sport Aviation, this airplane's stall speed is 90mph. -jav |
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