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Cessna Cardinal 177 RG II v. Piper Arrow III (70s) v. Piper Arrow III (brand new)
"Dan Luke" wrote My airplane has been parked 2 mi. from Mobile Bay for nearly 7 years and has no corrosion. It gets Corrosion-X'd at every other annual. Tell us more about that. What is it, that you do, on every other annual? -- Jim in NC |
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Cessna Cardinal 177 RG II v. Piper Arrow III (70s) v. Piper ArrowIII (brand new)
Newps wrote:
wrote: Jay Honeck wrote: Call me fickle, self-oriented, greedy, snobby, what have you, but I do not fly and will not own a fixed-gear plane. That's the goofiest thing I've read here in a long time. It's not about speed it's about the landing gear lever. Which is understandable with a high performance plane. But a Cardinal or an Arrow? Please. Those are toy planes. There's no prestige in either of those. Prestige requires burning kerosene. Matt |
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Cessna Cardinal 177 RG II v. Piper Arrow III (70s) v. Piper Arrow III (brand new)
Prestige requires burning kerosene.
Heh. We had a guest this weekend who arrived in a Pilatus. We spoke at length about the aircraft, but the thing he was most impressed with was the "economy" of flying a Pilatus, as it "only" cost $565/hour to operate... Thus proving that EVERYTHING is relative... ;-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Cessna Cardinal 177 RG II v. Piper Arrow III (70s) v. Piper Arrow III (brand new)
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message ups.com... Prestige requires burning kerosene. Heh. We had a guest this weekend who arrived in a Pilatus. We spoke at length about the aircraft, but the thing he was most impressed with was the "economy" of flying a Pilatus, as it "only" cost $565/hour to operate... Thus proving that EVERYTHING is relative... Yummy! Have you ever calculated what it costs to operate Atlas, per hour, including everything? -- Jim in NC |
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Cessna Cardinal 177 RG II v. Piper Arrow III (70s) v. Piper Arrow III (brand new)
In article . com,
"Jay Honeck" wrote: Prestige requires burning kerosene. Heh. We had a guest this weekend who arrived in a Pilatus. We spoke at length about the aircraft, but the thing he was most impressed with was the "economy" of flying a Pilatus, as it "only" cost $565/hour to operate... hmmmm Thus proving that EVERYTHING is relative... What's the per mile cost? -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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Cessna Cardinal 177 RG II v. Piper Arrow III (70s) v. Piper Arrow III (brand new)
("Newps" wrote)
That would be close. At 45%(19"/2100) I get 130 kts indicated. What's the fuel burn in that sweet-spot? Montblack |
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Cessna Cardinal 177 RG II v. Piper Arrow III (70s) v. Piper ArrowIII (brand new)
Montblack wrote: ("Newps" wrote) That would be close. At 45%(19"/2100) I get 130 kts indicated. What's the fuel burn in that sweet-spot? I burn 8 gph, that's about 50 lean of peak. |
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Cessna Cardinal 177 RG II v. Piper Arrow III (70s) v. Piper Arrow III (brand new)
No......certainly not the Cutlass RG. It was introduced after the cutoff
date(I think it was fall of 1978) for the GI bill. The other three wouldn't exist without the GI bill students. Thousands of these students got their commercial in the basic three trainers. "Dan Luke" wrote in message ... "karl gruber" wrote: Both the Arrow and the Cardinal...........and for that matter the Sierra, were produced for ONE reason only. 200HP, retractable gear for commercial students. BS. True in the case of the Cutlass RG, perhaps; not true in the case of the Cardinal RG. And what's 200 hp got to do with it? -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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Cessna Cardinal 177 RG II v. Piper Arrow III (70s) v. Piper ArrowIII (brand new)
Newps wrote:
It wouldn't be three times. My 67 182 was usually right at $1000 for a $70K hull. My Bo is $2200 this year with a $90K hull. That's on its way down as I got the Bo with zero retract time last year. I would expect the premium to be in the $1800 range next year. Congrats on the upgrade.. hope you like it.. I've always liked the Bonanza ride.. just not the bonanza price/cost of operation/cost of parts.. Dave |
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Cessna Cardinal 177 RG II v. Piper Arrow III (70s) v. Piper Arrow III (brand new)
karl gruber wrote: No......certainly not the Cutlass RG. It was introduced after the cutoff date(I think it was fall of 1978) for the GI bill. The other three wouldn't exist without the GI bill students. Thousands of these students got their commercial in the basic three trainers. So what you're saying is that a plane that was able to take the abuse of flight schools for decades while not putting them in the hole would for some reason be an impractical and uneconomical airplane? |
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