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"Morgans" wrote in message ... "Dudley Henriques" dhenriques@noware .net wrote Based on the always present and usual situation whenever and every time you post to me, I'll just assume you would like nothing better than to "catch" me on something untrue so rather than "explain" the circumstances of the flight to you, I'll simply suggest that you check the crew requirements for a ferry flight and hope that will be the end of it. Listen Dudley, I posted, I thought, a very civil question. I think it would be way cool to get to fly the heavy stuff, even for a person such as yourself, with lots of experience in other types. I would also think that you would *not* have posted an experience in a public forum, where there was something for you to have to hide, or anyone to able catch you in anything. That was not my purpose, or goal, in any way. I think that if you met me, with an open mind, you would like me as a person. Most people do. I hold no ill will, after a period of time, and would like to forget any unpleasantries we had in the past. As far as where to find the crew requirements for a ferry flight, I would have no idea where to even start looking. Here is where I was coming from. It was my understanding, that you had to have two pilots rated in type to fly the big stuff (or even some of the biz jets) on any type of flight. Is that not true? I don't know. That is why I asked. If it were true, all you had to say in a response (true or not) that yes, there were two type rated pilots in the cockpit, and one was kind enough to let you have his seat for the flight. I know of no restrictions that say both rated in type have to be at the controls, all of the time, so if that was the case, there is nothing to catch you in. (not that I want to) I am not evil. Again, all I was doing was attempting to open a civil conversation, and hear more of your experience in this flight. You have done more than I will ever get the chance to do, so all I can do is live vicariously. Can you put the past in the past? I can, and have. -- Thanks Jim in NC I'm sorry, and you're right of course. I guess I'm a bit gun shy on Usenet these days. It seems that in the last month, I've seen a post saying I wasn't a pilot at all, and that the only flying I do is with Microsoft's flight simulator. Then I saw one that said I wasn't in the FAA data base. Then I saw one that complained about my signature file. Then I saw one that said my name had been found in the data base. Then I saw one that suggested I wasn't Dudley Henriques at all. Then I saw one that said I could be an imposter using Dudley Henriques' name. I guess I've finally come to the conclusion that there really isn't any way to verify I'm who I say I am, so based on that, there really isn't any reason to believe anything I say as Dudley Henriques. I might as well use a pseudonym and be done with it. This of course is the basic Usenet equation that postulates the only thing that matters is the quality of the information, which is fine, except for the fact that I know who I am, and I'm the one taking the time to contribute my life experience to the cause so to speak; so when I post an experience I've had and someone questions it without one of these damn :-) things, and in lieu of all the other crap I've had to endure on Usenet, I get a bit gun shy with people. In your case, it was a mistake and I apologize. I'll make an attempt to rectify the mistake. As for the flight; it was a ferry flight to get the bird up to Fairbanks to replace one that went down with a serious maintenance problem. Naturally I was in the jump seat "officially", as I wasn't rated in the airplane. We were short a flight engineer and had a crew of two plus myself. My friend happened to be the chief check pilot for the DC8 and he flew the left seat. I was asked to fly the right and did so all the way through taxi out to taxi in. (with a little prompting of course from the left seat :-) It was a great experience. I came home on the company Lear the next evening and slept all the way :-)) Hope this helps a bit Dudley |
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"Dudley Henriques" dhenriques@noware .net wrote My friend happened to be the chief check pilot for the DC8 and he flew the left seat. I was asked to fly the right and did so all the way through taxi out to taxi in. (with a little prompting of course from the left seat :-) It was a great experience. I came home on the company Lear the next evening and slept all the way :-)) Sounds like a great experience! Thanks for sharing. -- Jim in NC |
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I seem to remember a few years back there was a program run by one
of the airlines where for a fee of around $1500 or so you would go and train for a weekend on a Boeing 737 and at the end you would actually get to fly one for half an hour or so. I don't think you got to fly a real one, just the simulator. UAL used to offer it to anyone. If you check the flight simulation groups, you'll find that their yearly get-togethers almost always include optional signup for an airline simulator... UAL was last year, I think. Also... http://www.b737.com/ http://www.smartt.com/~simflts/ I know there are more in England that offer this to anyone. Try some Googling. Best, Kev |
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Morgans wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" dhenriques@noware .net wrote Based on the always present and usual situation whenever and every time you post to me, I'll just assume you would like nothing better than to "catch" me on something untrue so rather than "explain" the circumstances of the flight to you, I'll simply suggest that you check the crew requirements for a ferry flight and hope that will be the end of it. Listen Dudley, I posted, I thought, a very civil question. I think it would be way cool to get to fly the heavy stuff, even for a person such as yourself, with lots of experience in other types. I would also think that you would *not* have posted an experience in a public forum, where there was something for you to have to hide, or anyone to able catch you in anything. That was not my purpose, or goal, in any way. And here I thought I was the only one that Dudley thought was out to get him and who received nasty emails from him. :-) I challenged him once and he got mad and took his marbles home and then thought he could tell me that I couldn't respond to his public usenet posts. I've never seen anyone get so upset over something so trivial in the scheme of life and then hold a grudge with such vengeance. I respond to usenet posts, not usenet posters. I don't hold grudges and keep records and frankly don't understand those who do. I remember a few years ago I replied to a post in another ng and the person said that he was ignoring my post because of something I'd written several YEARS earlier. :-) I was amazed that he kept track of this that long. I didn't even remember his name or the conversation until he reminded me. Life is way too short to hold grudges over usenet conversations, IMO. Matt |
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... Morgans wrote: "Dudley Henriques" dhenriques@noware .net wrote Based on the always present and usual situation whenever and every time you post to me, I'll just assume you would like nothing better than to "catch" me on something untrue so rather than "explain" the circumstances of the flight to you, I'll simply suggest that you check the crew requirements for a ferry flight and hope that will be the end of it. Listen Dudley, I posted, I thought, a very civil question. I think it would be way cool to get to fly the heavy stuff, even for a person such as yourself, with lots of experience in other types. I would also think that you would *not* have posted an experience in a public forum, where there was something for you to have to hide, or anyone to able catch you in anything. That was not my purpose, or goal, in any way. And here I thought I was the only one that Dudley thought was out to get him and who received nasty emails from him. :-) Sorry, but I have never used the phrase "out to get him". That's a personal choice of yours I think, designed to illicit a specific picture in the mind of the reader. Typical and predictable Usenet technique I might add. :-) I challenged him once and he got mad and took his marbles home I think you really do like these negative discriptive phrases "took his marbels home" is interesting I'll admit. and then thought he could tell me that I couldn't respond to his public usenet posts. If you mean I said you might have a problem making your point on the public forum, you might be more correct. I've never seen anyone get so upset over something so trivial in the scheme of life and then hold a grudge with such vengeance. Hardly upset. Your phrasing again. Actually, I don't hold grudges. I just like or dislike people as I see fit. Along the lines of what you have said here about my holding a grudge, I notice you quoted only my initial response to the message you were using and completely ommited my second response; the time between the two posts indicating I held this 'grudge" for the length of one sensible post from the poster you quoted. So you see, I don't hole grudges. In fact, my second post would indicate that I respond immediately to intelligent and sincere comment and am capable of a lighting quick apology to those whom I have mistakenly tangeled with. Perhaps if you used the same approach to me that the poster I answered in this thread did, you and I wouldn't have had any issues.....but then you didn't did you? Instead you insert a totally negative post. That's a shame, but it's not my fault my friend. Just to refreash your mind a bit, here's the response that completes the quoted text....you know, the part you DIDN'T present in your post about me. In this thread; DH wrote to Jim in NC; "I'm sorry, and you're right of course. I guess I'm a bit gun shy on Usenet these days. It seems that in the last month, I've seen a post saying I wasn't a pilot at all, and that the only flying I do is with Microsoft's flight simulator. Then I saw one that said I wasn't in the FAA data base. Then I saw one that complained about my signature file. Then I saw one that said my name had been found in the data base. Then I saw one that suggested I wasn't Dudley Henriques at all. Then I saw one that said I could be an imposter using Dudley Henriques' name. I guess I've finally come to the conclusion that there really isn't any way to verify I'm who I say I am, so based on that, there really isn't any reason to believe anything I say as Dudley Henriques. I might as well use a pseudonym and be done with it. This of course is the basic Usenet equation that postulates the only thing that matters is the quality of the information, which is fine, except for the fact that I know who I am, and I'm the one taking the time to contribute my life experience to the cause so to speak; so when I post an experience I've had and someone questions it without one of these damn :-) things, and in lieu of all the other crap I've had to endure on Usenet, I get a bit gun shy with people. In your case, it was a mistake and I apologize. I'll make an attempt to rectify the mistake. As for the flight; it was a ferry flight to get the bird up to Fairbanks to replace one that went down with a serious maintenance problem. Naturally I was in the jump seat "officially", as I wasn't rated in the airplane. We were short a flight engineer and had a crew of two plus myself. My friend happened to be the chief check pilot for the DC8 and he flew the left seat. I was asked to fly the right and did so all the way through taxi out to taxi in. (with a little prompting of course from the left seat :-) It was a great experience. I came home on the company Lear the next evening and slept all the way :-)) Yep!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Clearly shows a tendency to hold a grudge all right!!! And absolutely NO tendency at all toward civil discourse I'd say!! Why I must be every thing you said I am. Clearly!! :-)))) I respond to usenet posts, not usenet posters. I don't hold grudges and keep records and frankly don't understand those who do. Well....in this case I'd say that since you weren't involved in the discussion to begin with, and CHOSE to insert a totally negative post about someone who had not even addressed you in this thread, it just might be YOU who has the problem here old buddy but that's not important really. I'll just suggest that you re-read my response to Jim again.....BOTH of them this time, then if you want to post again we'll talk about my 'grudge" problem.......OR, you can post something about aviation next time, and we'll see how THAT goes. I'm sure everybody else would appreciate that as well. After all, it's an aviation newsgroup you know. :-)))))) Dudley Henriques |
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Listen Dudley, I posted, I thought, a very civil question. I think it
would be way cool to get to fly the heavy stuff, even for a person such as yourself, with lots of experience in other types. *Big Snip* Look, guys, I know both of you (Jim "in person"; Dudley "on the phone") and I can vouch for the fact that both of you would hit it off immediately "in-person." Therefore, I hereby invite you both to attend our barbecue cookout party at OSH '05, held on Wednesday after the airshow at our campsite in the "North 40". This will be our third annual, and each one has grown a bit more from the previous years. (See for pix.) Jim will be there with "GOG" (God's Own Grill), helping with the cooking duties -- and I sure hope you can make it, Dudley! (And don't give us any of that "I can't make it" stuff. I *know* you've got friends all over with whom you could hitch a ride...and, if not, I'll bet you ten bucks we could find someone here flying to OSH with an empty seat! :-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Before 9/11 I had the opportunity to go to the American Airlines training center near DFW with a AA captain I know. While sitting in the F-100 simulator an instructor came in with a training crew. But, he let me "fly' the full motion simulator and make an approach into Chicago O'Hare. What a thrill. The hard part was taxing with that little "wheel" and being so far out in front. Back in the 80's I was crewing a corporate 707 and we trained at American. One time the Capt's flight director died and we called a technician to change it. After the change, standing behind the pedistal, he pushed up the throttles and at Vr reached over and grabbed the stick with his left hand on the side designed for the Capt's right. He went around the pattern that way at DFW and shot a perfect CAT II approach, made a smooth landing, and stopped it dead center with the reversers. I said "Damn" " How many hours do have in the aircraft?". He said " none, never been in an airplaine before cause I'm afraid to fly" |
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Thank you Jay, for taking the time to post such a positive message, and I'm
fairly certain you are probably right about Jim and I getting along with Usenet out of the equation. I certainly wish you and everyone else on the newsgroup the very best of luck at Oshkosh and I know all of you will enjoy your fellowship there. I'm sorry that I won't be able to join in. Best as always, Dudley "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:aGHne.8953$nG6.2616@attbi_s22... Listen Dudley, I posted, I thought, a very civil question. I think it would be way cool to get to fly the heavy stuff, even for a person such as yourself, with lots of experience in other types. *Big Snip* Look, guys, I know both of you (Jim "in person"; Dudley "on the phone") and I can vouch for the fact that both of you would hit it off immediately "in-person." Therefore, I hereby invite you both to attend our barbecue cookout party at OSH '05, held on Wednesday after the airshow at our campsite in the "North 40". This will be our third annual, and each one has grown a bit more from the previous years. (See for pix.) Jim will be there with "GOG" (God's Own Grill), helping with the cooking duties -- and I sure hope you can make it, Dudley! (And don't give us any of that "I can't make it" stuff. I *know* you've got friends all over with whom you could hitch a ride...and, if not, I'll bet you ten bucks we could find someone here flying to OSH with an empty seat! :-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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