more reasons for GA: John Gilmo I was ejected from a plane for wearing "Suspected Terrorist" button

In a previous article, "Gary L. Drescher" said:
"Dennis O'Connor" wrote in message
...
They would
have made good additions to our citizenry pool to offset the welfare
mentality of some of our native born minority groups...

I'd rather offset the racist mentality of some of our native born majority
groups.

Well said!


--
Paul Tomblin , not speaking for anybody
There are three kinds of people: Those who can count & those who can't.

It doesn't matter what you believe about the Florida election laws, or how
you feel about the court rulings, or whether you disliked the hair style of
Ms. Harris, the facts are clear...
The DNC had an aggressive get out the vote campaign and they recruited
heavily from two groups; those who had never voted before, and those who had
become too senile to vote - and bussed them to the polls in herds... As a
result their ballot error rate shot off the graph... Simple case of cause
and effect...

Denny

"Newps" wrote in message
. net...


Paul Tomblin wrote:

Ok, why is it perfectly ok to throw away the ballots of seniors who
"were
too stupid to figure out the ballot",

You mean "suddenly too stupid."? The same ballot type had been used for
many election cycles.

Paul

Statistically how often does one and one not make two?

By the way, are you connected someway with the census bureau?

Big John
An hours pay for an hours work.

Big John

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 21:56:13 +0000 (UTC), (Paul
Tomblin) wrote:

In a previous article, Newps said:
Paul Tomblin wrote:
Ok, why is it perfectly ok to throw away the ballots of seniors who "were
too stupid to figure out the ballot",

You mean "suddenly too stupid."? The same ballot type had been used for
many election cycles.

Let me introduce you to the concept of "statistically significant error
rates" some day.

(Paul Tomblin) wrote in message ...
In a previous article, Newps said:
Paul Tomblin wrote:
Ok, why is it perfectly ok to throw away the ballots of seniors who "were
too stupid to figure out the ballot",

You mean "suddenly too stupid."? The same ballot type had been used for
many election cycles.

Let me introduce you to the concept of "statistically significant error
rates" some day.


Pre-freakin-cisely. Statistically, the election was a dead heat. The
margin of victory was less than the sampling error. The Florida
election laws were not up to the task of handling the situation, so it
went to court. The system worked. Once again, political power in the
world's largest, most vibrant economy, and control of the most
powerful military force the planet has ever seen, traded hands
peacefully. Yes, there were loud arguments. Maybe even a few
fistfights.

But no tanks in the streets. The system WORKED AS DESIGNED. Maybe
the design is flawed, but it WORKED. Dennis Prager made a good point
the other day: Looking around the globe, our society is the exception,
not the norm.


To the point of the original post: You have the right to express your
views. You also have the responsibility to accept the consequences of
expressing them. The KKK has the right to march through downtown
Skokie. They should not, however, be surprised that they have to
clean borsht stains out of their robers afterwards. The fellow with
the button had made his point when the flight crew politely asked him
to remove the button. (They were completely within their rights to do
so - once the door is closed, the PIC is God, right?) To
inconvenience 300 paying passengers, waste several hundred gallons of
fuel, waste the time of any number of personnel who could have been
attending to real issues... if there are any lawsuits coming, I'd
think that he might find himself in need of a defense attorney.

In article ,
(Corrie) wrote:

Pre-freakin-cisely. Statistically, the election was a dead heat. The
margin of victory was less than the sampling error. The Florida
election laws were not up to the task of handling the situation, so it
went to court. The system worked. Once again, political power in the
world's largest, most vibrant economy, and control of the most
powerful military force the planet has ever seen, traded hands
peacefully. Yes, there were loud arguments. Maybe even a few
fistfights.

But no tanks in the streets. The system WORKED AS DESIGNED. Maybe
the design is flawed, but it WORKED. Dennis Prager made a good point
the other day: Looking around the globe, our society is the exception,
not the norm.

Pre-cisely precisely (especially the first four lines). Thanks for a
genuinely intelligent posting -- uncomfortably rare in newsgroups, and
probably little appreciated when they do occur.

How come our press and media never make this exact point? Because
they're not intelligent enough to understand it to start with?

In a previous article, "Jay Honeck" said:
They would
have made good additions to our citizenry pool to offset the welfare
mentality of some of our native born minority groups...

I'd rather offset the racist mentality of some of our native born majority
groups.

How is Denny's observation "racist"?

Saying "native born minority groups" have a "welfare mentality" *isn't*
racist? It's hard to think of a remark that would be more racist.


--
Paul Tomblin , not speaking for anybody
``Furthermore, [your wishlist item] would end up being the sort of system
feature that we in software engineering call an "SPR generator".''
- Paul S. Winalski

Paul Tomblin wrote:

In a previous article, "Jay Honeck" said:

They would
have made good additions to our citizenry pool to offset the welfare
mentality of some of our native born minority groups...

I'd rather offset the racist mentality of some of our native born majority
groups.

How is Denny's observation "racist"?


Saying "native born minority groups" have a "welfare mentality" *isn't*
racist? It's hard to think of a remark that would be more racist.

He said "some" and he is correct.

Jay Honeck wrote:

How is Denny's observation "racist"?

Saying "native born minority groups" have a "welfare mentality" *isn't*
racist? It's hard to think of a remark that would be more racist.


Um, have you spent any time in the urban centers of this country, sir?

I have. Seven years spent collecting money from inner city debtors.

Denny's observation isn't racist. It may be a slam against a particular
*culture* -- but it ain't "racist".

Good god. Travel to most any indian reservation. Having seen quite a
few myself no one will ever convince me that what is happening to the
indians today isn't 100% their own damn fault. Get off your ass, stop
drinking, get an education and get a career. Until that happens shut
the hell up.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
newsJHUa.156575$H17.55177@sccrnsc02...
How is Denny's observation "racist"?

Saying "native born minority groups" have a "welfare mentality" *isn't*
racist? It's hard to think of a remark that would be more racist.

Um, have you spent any time in the urban centers of this country, sir?

I have. Seven years spent collecting money from inner city debtors.

Denny's observation isn't racist. It may be a slam against a particular
*culture* -- but it ain't "racist".

So is it your contention that Denny's "observation" isn't racist, because
e.g. African Americans really do have a "welfare mentality"? Remember,
it's not just certain individuals whom Denny characterized as having that
"mentality", but rather certain "minority groups" overall (though I'm sure
he'd acknowledge so-called exceptions). There's no doubt as to which
minorities you and he are referring to, is there?

And you base your appraisal on an anecdotal sample drawn
exclusively from *recalcitrant debtors*?

--Gary

--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Newps" wrote in message
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Good god. Travel to most any indian reservation. Having seen quite a
few myself no one will ever convince me that what is happening to the
indians today isn't 100% their own damn fault. Get off your ass, stop
drinking, get an education and get a career. Until that happens shut
the hell up.

100% their fault? 100% are lazy alcoholics? 100% have been offered decent
educations, but declined? And having had their culture destroyed when
driven to the brink of genocide doesn't even count as a contributory factor?
It's not even a significant *part* of what is to blame?

At least it's refreshing when the right wing drops its big-tent,
compassionate-conservative public-relations facade and reveals its true
colors. If only Bush, Cheney, et al were to speak as plainly as Newps, we
could have an easy regime change at the next election.