A few newbie questions about the sport

On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 3:45:08 PM UTC-4, Paul T wrote:
At 19:09 20 September 2018, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 11:00:08 AM UTC-7, Paul T
wrote:
At 13:31 20 September 2018, kirk.stant wrote:
On Tuesday, September 18, 2018 at 6:00:07 PM UTC-5, Paul T
wrote:

Sorry can't afford transatlantic telephone calls - I asked a fairly
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question, why can't you answer this on a public forum?

Assuming you are British - do a search of BGA's excellent
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few
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ears ago there was an article about a student who basically soloed
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I believe the French CNVV has developed a full-up Condor
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and
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screens) glider simulator for use by French glider clubs.

Our own gliding club (St Louis Soaring Association) in the US is in
the
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cess of building up a Condor sim with realistic flight controls and
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e big screens.

Any simulator is just a training tool (Condor is technically an
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ining Device in the lingo of the flight simulation industry) and it's
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tiveness is driven by how it is used. Since the cockpit of a glider is
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the best classroom, used properly Condor can be a great help to
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g process. Learn it in the sim, practice it in the glider.

Kirk
(been using sims for training for almost 50 years now...yikes!)
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You ask a simple question on here and get slaughtered - I asked
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simple question of someone who uses this method as a business ,
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is typically the time saved using this method-its it really such a
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question to answer? Why can't htat be answered on a public forum -
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some kind of big secret or something?

If you want to ask a simple question, might I suggest you do it without
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accusatory tone. Writers including myself have given you plenty
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evidence" of simulation training as a good learning tool. I was
required
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y my insurance to attend Flight Safety for yearly simulation training in
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complex aircraft I have flown. Could be Scott runs a small operation,
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ing to glider pilots, and has not funded a multi-part double blind study
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rge enough for a statically valid result, to see if 1) Condor simulation
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duces time to ticket for; a) ab initio student; b) for licensed power
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s transitioning; c) rusty returning pilots; d) currency=E2=80=A6.. =20

Simulation training has been around and proven since the Link trainer
in
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e big one, that is WWII. Don't blame Scott or the newsgroup for
calling
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u out on your behavior! For the most part we have a great group that
are
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lpful to one another and many members are the most respected
members of
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sport internationally. If you truly wanted to know you would have
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cott up on his offer to communication directly.


Yeah at great expense to myself, sorry but I cannot afford to make
transantlantic telephone calls - there was no accusatory tone - asked a
simple question that's all - dont see why that can't be answered. Think
you are getting a bit oversensitiveness and reading things into things
that aren't there . The guy stated this was his business and made some
claims in a public forum - I merely asked if he had any evidence for that
and what the average time saving was - surely a simple answer like' in
my experience for the 50 students that have used this method - the
average student can save 2 -4 hours on R/L training' would have
answered the question - cannot see why that is so hard to do?

If you wish to know the reason for this - is that I with some friends are
thinking of establishing a gliding club in Bulgaria - Bulgaria is one of
the
poorest countries in the EU - we would like to establish a club that the a

person on an average income can afford to fly - average incomes are low
in Bulgaria @ 400euro/month - so any money savings saved in training
would be beneficial and it may pay to use a simulator in the training
syllabus.

Warning - thread drift. You might consider something like the LAK-16M primary trainer. There is a short youtube video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj4oZ8bX9Oo ; aimed at younger people, but inexpensive, and looks like a lot of cheap fun.