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Old March 30th 04, 05:55 PM
David Lednicer
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Read the book "Destination Disaster" about the THY DC-10 crash outside
Paris. This aircraft hit a forest at high speed. There was very little
wreckage any bigger than a piece of notebook paper.

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Old March 31st 04, 12:36 AM
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote in message
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Sept. 11 crash remains shrouded in mystery, Pennsylvania coroner says

Miller, the director of a family-run funeral home and elected county
coroner for Somerset, Pa., said only eight per cent of the wreckage
was recovered. Everything else was vaporised, he said.

"We found remains 50 feet deep," he said of the massive crater the
plane left on impact.

The debris field spanned about 2.5 square kilometres of wooded area.
Victim recovery efforts were hampered because most of the salvageable
human remains were in the treetops. snip


http://www.canada.com/news/national/...4-e2eeafa96b46

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WTF is going on here? Since when do crashes cause 92% of the plane to
VAPORIZE??


What preytell do you think happens when an aircraft hits the ground at high
speed from relatively high altitude? Perhaps he shouldn't have used the
term vaporize, but the end result is the same, a plane ripped mainly into
tiny little bits, with a few larger bits surviving. From what I've read
people in Lockerbie, Scotland are still finding the occasional bit of Pan Am
Flight 103, more than 15 years after it was blown up.

And how did most of the human remains end up in treetops?
Has that ever happened before?


Of course.
http://wildcat.arizona.edu/papers/ol...94/01_2_m.html

Sounds to me like there were
explosives on board that went off on impact.

Sounds to me like you don't know anything about plane crashes, or explosives
either. Certainly the folks at the NTSB would have found explosives traces
on the wreckage when it was examined. Of course its likely you believe they
too were in on whatever plot it is you believe in this week.

PS - and please note that this article is in a canadian paper.


The staff of which would likely laugh at you if they read your post.

tim gueguen 101867


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Old March 31st 04, 02:34 AM
The CO
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"tim gueguen" wrote in message
news:2wnac.50477$QO2.43514@pd7tw1no...

Sounds to me like you don't know anything about plane crashes, or

explosives
either. Certainly the folks at the NTSB would have found explosives

traces
on the wreckage when it was examined. Of course its likely you

believe they
too were in on whatever plot it is you believe in this week.


Of course there were explosives on board. It's called Jet Fuel. :^)
Slam it into the ground at 500knots plus in a combustible metal
container
with an ignition source and it goes off pretty nicely. Remember that
aircraft
are mostly *empty space* and combustible organic material and
combustible
*metal*. Aircraft are mostly aluminium - which *burns* quite readily if
you get it
hot enough in the presence of an oxidiser. (Oxygen in the air in this
case )


PS - and please note that this article is in a canadian paper.


The staff of which would likely laugh at you if they read your post.


It's all just crap from a whacko.

The CO


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Old March 31st 04, 04:15 AM
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:04:39 +0930, "The CO"
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Of course there were explosives on board. It's called Jet Fuel. :^)
Slam it into the ground at 500knots plus in a combustible metal
container
with an ignition source and it goes off pretty nicely. Remember that
aircraft
are mostly *empty space* and combustible organic material and
combustible
*metal*. Aircraft are mostly aluminium - which *burns* quite readily if
you get it
hot enough in the presence of an oxidiser. (Oxygen in the air in this
case )


HAHAHA. Listen to this loonie. Now he's saying airplanes just burn
up all on their own. All that flammable aluminum you know!! HAHA.
You rw nuts will lie about anything.
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Old March 31st 04, 08:48 AM
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On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 20:15:10 -0700, Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
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HAHAHA. Listen to this loonie. Now he's saying airplanes just burn
up all on their own. All that flammable aluminum you know!! HAHA.
You rw nuts will lie about anything.


"0108 crashed 11/10/64 near Glasgow AFB while on low-level mission"

The fuselage and wings had been completely VAPORIZED! There were some
small, melted aluminum "puddles?" left on the ground. Maybe five
pieces would fit in your hand if you could find that many.

Aluminum burns and it isn't really a loonie HAHA situation when you
realize there were real human beings inside of that aluminum frame.
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Old March 31st 04, 10:32 AM
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From: "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend


On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:04:39 +0930, "The CO"
wrote:


Of course there were explosives on board. It's called Jet Fuel. :^)
Slam it into the ground at 500knots plus in a combustible metal
container
with an ignition source and it goes off pretty nicely. Remember that
aircraft
are mostly *empty space* and combustible organic material and
combustible
*metal*. Aircraft are mostly aluminium - which *burns* quite readily if
you get it
hot enough in the presence of an oxidiser. (Oxygen in the air in this
case )


HAHAHA. Listen to this loonie. Now he's saying airplanes just burn
up all on their own. All that flammable aluminum you know!! HAHA.
You rw nuts will lie about anything.


Hey, genius, have you ever heard of thermite? One of the components is
aluminum. The other is iron oxide (rust) which provides oxygen. In the case of
a burning airplane the oxygen comes from the air which, mixed with fuel and
aluminum will be extremely hot and not much is likely to survive.

Look up rocket fuels and you'll find some that include aluminum.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old March 31st 04, 06:32 PM
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In article ,
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
HAHAHA. Listen to this loonie. Now he's saying airplanes just burn
up all on their own. All that flammable aluminum you know!! HAHA.
You rw nuts will lie about anything.


And which part does your twisted mind think he is lying about?
Aluminum burning? Nope. It's true. Jet fuel burning? No, that's
true too. It's how the jet engines run.

Come on, out with it. What is he lying about?

-Geoff

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Old March 31st 04, 07:18 AM
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"The CO" wrote in message
...

"tim gueguen" wrote in message
news:2wnac.50477$QO2.43514@pd7tw1no...

Sounds to me like you don't know anything about plane crashes, or

explosives
either. Certainly the folks at the NTSB would have found explosives

traces
on the wreckage when it was examined. Of course its likely you

believe they
too were in on whatever plot it is you believe in this week.


Of course there were explosives on board. It's called Jet Fuel. :^)
Slam it into the ground at 500knots plus in a combustible metal
container
with an ignition source and it goes off pretty nicely. Remember that
aircraft
are mostly *empty space* and combustible organic material and
combustible
*metal*. Aircraft are mostly aluminium - which *burns* quite readily if
you get it
hot enough in the presence of an oxidiser. (Oxygen in the air in this
case )


PS - and please note that this article is in a canadian paper.


The staff of which would likely laugh at you if they read your post.


It's all just crap from a whacko.


Comments from the original poster aside accompanying the posted article, I
see no one discussing or refuting the two weird, misplaced tidbits of
information contained herein:

"There was, in my conclusion, no way we could ever know who they were
that charged that cockpit," Wallace Miller told students at the B.C.
Institute of Technology.

Uh, no, Wallace. The plane was smashed to bits. Right?

Was there a reason that we needed to be so redundant? Perhaps it was a badly
written article, and thus, a bad example?

But then there's this:

"The debris field spanned about 2.5 square kilometres of wooded area."

How big is that in miles? I'm not sure, but I'll bet it's bigger than the
generic "size of a couple of football fields across" reference in most of
the other "official stories" I've seen.

And in another "official story", the word "six" is used in relation to
"miles from the crash scene":

http://post-gazette.com/headlines/20...somersetp3.asp

"Residents and workers at businesses outside Shanksville, Somerset County,
reported discovering clothing, books, papers and what appeared to be human
remains. Some residents said they collected bags-full of items to be turned
over to investigators. Others reported what appeared to be crash debris
floating in Indian Lake, nearly six miles from the immediate crash scene.
Workers at Indian Lake Marina said that they saw a cloud of confetti-like
debris descend on the lake and nearby farms minutes after hearing the
explosion that signaled the crash at 10:06 a.m. Tuesday"

Whoo! But hey--if that isn't enough to confound you, get a load of this:
they even had robotics out there, poking around, looking for pieces and
parts:

http://www.postgazette.com/headlines...ppernat3p3.asp

Boy, they musta wanted to find EVERY scrap of that plane. That isn't
unusual, in and of itself, of course. The more pieces of the plane they can
find, the better chance they have of finding a cause.

BUT, why would they go to all that trouble, if the thing was smashed
completely to bits on its only "impact"?

This is what is called a "contradiction":

http://www.post-gazette.com/headline...rset0911p4.asp

"There was a crater in the ground that was really burning. There were pieces
of fuselage and clothing all over the area, burning, said Peterson. He said
he didn't see any debris longer than a couple of feet long."

Draw your own conclusions.

mellstrr


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Old March 31st 04, 04:12 AM
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
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On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 23:36:30 GMT, "tim gueguen"
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WTF is going on here? Since when do crashes cause 92% of the plane to
VAPORIZE??


What preytell do you think happens when an aircraft hits the ground at high
speed from relatively high altitude? Perhaps he shouldn't have used the
term vaporize, but the end result is the same, a plane ripped mainly into
tiny little bits, with a few larger bits surviving.


Well "vaporized" is what he said and he's the expert, not you.
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Old March 31st 04, 06:34 PM
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In article ,
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

Well "vaporized" is what he said and he's the expert, not you.


And how is a funeral director an expert on plane crashes?

Do they now require a degree in aerospace engineering in order to
be a funeral director?


-Geoff

 




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