Cool flight to WI today...

Vince

Good move.

As they ussed to say....................

"Park the airplane and go to the bar and live to fly another day"

Big John

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Trying his best to be helpful, the controller kept
trying to vector me into a big black wall of CN,
telling me he had only level 1 or 2 echoes.

But my stormscope was lighting up, and having
flown through a couple of thunderstorms back in
the early 50s, when I was in the marines and
there was no wx radar, I had no intention of going
into that stuff. I landed at an alternate.

vince norris-- an old, not bold, pilot

"Dennis O'Connor" wrote in message ...
If you think that having an IFR cert in your wallet means you can now file
right into building cumulus with a negative lifted index (lets say -5 !),
you have bigger cajones than me...

And smaller brains...

A month or so ago we were trying to pick our way west through
tstorm activity. The FSS briefer started out "VFR not Recommended"
and it was hard to get anything else out of him even though I could
see the view out the window wasn't nearly as dire as the wx reporting
points off to the south of us would have it. My plan was to run west
as far as I could staying visual, then duck and eat lunch while the
crap went overhead.

I finally said "Well it's clearly not good IFR weather so let's get
a standard briefing here"

*shocked pause*

"What do you mean by 'not good IFR weather'? What would you call
good IFR weather?"

"No embedded thunderstorms in the clouds".

Sometimes when we're traveling I am *sooooo* homesick for DUATS..
and FSS wonders why pilots aren't anxious to jump up and fight
for them.....to his credit, he did get the point and give me a
decent briefing after that.

Being on an IFR plan means the nice controller person gets to vector you
right into some hairy chested, old grandpa, thunder bumper, while you can
see is the inside of a cloud...

Yep. He might not mean to but....overheard one day on freq.
apparently just after a controller sent someone through some
rough stuff: "Ah, yes, sir, we've been commenting unfavorably
on the weather limitations of our radar for 20 years now."

Underneath vs. above, depends on details of the wx though.

Cheers,
Sydney