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Old October 1st 05, 01:10 AM
Hilton
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Default FAA approves O'Hare expansion plan

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TRAVEL/09/30....ap/index.html

"The plan drew intense criticism from some, largely because the 440-acre
expansion requires the city to buy and raze more than 500 homes, displacing
about 2,600 residents, and move nearly 200 businesses and a cemetery with
1,300 tombs dating back to the 1800s.

Mayor Richard M. Daley has long pushed to expand O'Hare, saying it would
speed up air travel throughout the United States. A cost-benefit analysis by
the city projected that the project would save more than $12 billion over
nearly two decades by reducing passenger and aircraft delays.

Critics say the city has exaggerated the project's benefits and
underestimated its cost. In July, the Transportation Department also said
the cost estimate was low."


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Old October 1st 05, 03:37 AM
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Jay Honeck wrote:

In light of what he's done with/to airports in Chicago, it's safe to say
that Daley is clearly a paranoid schizophrenic.


You need to look both those terms up. He is clearly neither.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.
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Old October 1st 05, 04:03 AM
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In light of what he's done with/to airports in Chicago, it's safe to say
that Daley is clearly a paranoid schizophrenic.


You need to look both those terms up. He is clearly neither.


You don't think that a guy who believes that he needs a permanent ADIZ
around Chicago isn't paranoid?

You don't think that a guy who both bulldozes *and* expands airports is
schizophrenic?

You need to find another dictionary.
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Old October 1st 05, 04:22 AM
George Patterson
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Jay Honeck wrote:

You don't think that a guy who believes that he needs a permanent ADIZ
around Chicago isn't paranoid?


Paranoia is defined as an unreasonable fear of persecution, usually because of
an unjustifiably high estimate of his own importance. Daley has exhibited neither.

You don't think that a guy who both bulldozes *and* expands airports is
schizophrenic?


Schizophrenia is an inability to deal with the real world. The most common
symptom is withdrawal, but that's not usually how a paranoid schizophrenic
reacts. Paranoid Schizophrenics usually exhibit unfocussed anxiety, anger,
argumentativeness, and violence. Often a stilted, formal quality or extreme
intensity in interpersonal interaction is noted. Daley does none of this. Daley
has given plenty of evidence that he can deal with the world just fine. If
anything, it is the world that has problems dealing with Daley.

You need to find another dictionary.


You need to buy your first one. Or perhaps learn to read it.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.
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Old October 1st 05, 04:25 AM
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George Patterson wrote:

Jay Honeck wrote:

In light of what he's done with/to airports in Chicago, it's safe to
say that Daley is clearly a paranoid schizophrenic.



You need to look both those terms up. He is clearly neither.


True, he's more of a psychopath.


Matt
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Old October 1st 05, 05:26 AM
Dave Stadt
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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George Patterson wrote:

Jay Honeck wrote:

In light of what he's done with/to airports in Chicago, it's safe to
say that Daley is clearly a paranoid schizophrenic.



You need to look both those terms up. He is clearly neither.


True, he's more of a psychopath.


Matt


He's just a little short guy on a power trip. If they ever lose the platform
that gets carried around so he can see over the podium he will be powerless.


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Old October 1st 05, 05:29 AM
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"Hilton" wrote in message
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/TRAVEL/09/30....ap/index.html

"The plan drew intense criticism from some, largely because the 440-acre
expansion requires the city to buy and raze more than 500 homes,

displacing
about 2,600 residents, and move nearly 200 businesses and a cemetery with
1,300 tombs dating back to the 1800s.

Mayor Richard M. Daley has long pushed to expand O'Hare, saying it would
speed up air travel throughout the United States. A cost-benefit analysis

by
the city projected that the project would save more than $12 billion over
nearly two decades by reducing passenger and aircraft delays.

Critics say the city has exaggerated the project's benefits and
underestimated its cost. In July, the Transportation Department also said
the cost estimate was low."


The project was shut down a couple of hours after it was begun when
surrounding communities took their concerns to federal court. They have
managed to kill 4 previous expansion projects and are going for number 5.


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Old October 1st 05, 01:58 PM
Nathan Young
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 00:10:02 GMT, "Hilton" wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TRAVEL/09/30....ap/index.html

"The plan drew intense criticism from some, largely because the 440-acre
expansion requires the city to buy and raze more than 500 homes, displacing
about 2,600 residents, and move nearly 200 businesses and a cemetery with
1,300 tombs dating back to the 1800s.

Mayor Richard M. Daley has long pushed to expand O'Hare, saying it would
speed up air travel throughout the United States. A cost-benefit analysis by
the city projected that the project would save more than $12 billion over
nearly two decades by reducing passenger and aircraft delays.


I am absolutely astonished over the pricetag for this expansion.
There has to be a better way for the City of Chicago to spend $15B.

Having said that - as a Chicago area resident - I would love to see a
Western vehicle/passenger entrance to the airport, and more gates.
Nearly every delay I encounter at ORD is related to lack of gates, and
planes getting sent to the penalty box as a result.
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Old October 1st 05, 03:02 PM
Dave Stadt
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"Nathan Young" wrote in message
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 00:10:02 GMT, "Hilton" wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TRAVEL/09/30....ap/index.html

"The plan drew intense criticism from some, largely because the 440-acre
expansion requires the city to buy and raze more than 500 homes,

displacing
about 2,600 residents, and move nearly 200 businesses and a cemetery with
1,300 tombs dating back to the 1800s.

Mayor Richard M. Daley has long pushed to expand O'Hare, saying it would
speed up air travel throughout the United States. A cost-benefit analysis

by
the city projected that the project would save more than $12 billion over
nearly two decades by reducing passenger and aircraft delays.


I am absolutely astonished over the pricetag for this expansion.
There has to be a better way for the City of Chicago to spend $15B.

Having said that - as a Chicago area resident - I would love to see a
Western vehicle/passenger entrance to the airport, and more gates.
Nearly every delay I encounter at ORD is related to lack of gates, and
planes getting sent to the penalty box as a result.


I thought a west entrance was part of the plan. How they will get you to
the east side I don't know.


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Old October 2nd 05, 02:16 AM
r. mutt
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Well, maybe "paranoid schizophrenic" is a bit strong but certainly he is
drunk with power and on the make.


"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:WDm%e.370$Wb3.186@trndny04...
Jay Honeck wrote:

In light of what he's done with/to airports in Chicago, it's safe to say
that Daley is clearly a paranoid schizophrenic.


You need to look both those terms up. He is clearly neither.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your
neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.



 




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