Where are the (retired) carriers?

DDAY wrote:

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In article , "Jim"
wrote:


The America (CV(A)-66) is no more. She was sunk off the coast to provide
vital information for future carrier construction.


I was aware of that. However, most of the Google images are a number of
years old.

I should have clarified a bit: where are the retired supercarriers? Where's
the Forrestal, Independence, etc? I thought that they were all kept at
Philly and not yet scrapped, but I cannot find them.

I've already found the Midway (in Oakland, before her move to SD), Hornet,
Lexington, Yorktown, Intrepid (moving five miles in a few days so she can be
cleaned and painted), and a number of active carriers. I've also found the
Oriskany, prior to her sinking. But I have not found the big carriers.




D

In Google Earth you will find the decommissioned super carriers
Forestall and Saratoga at Newport, RI. Coordinates 41 31' 39.57" North,
71 18' 59.21" West.

At Bremerton, WA you will see the Independence, Constellation, and
Ranger. Coordinates 47 33' 13.34" North, 122 39' 06/83" West.

Keep in mind that the satellite images in Google Earth are about three
years old, so these ships may have moved since then. However you can
see them at these locations until the next update to the satellite image
database.

ALV

CV 60..Saratoga is sitting off of Rhode Island waiting for someone to
buy it and cut it up.




On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 14:38:04 GMT, "DDAY"
wrote:

I've been playing around with GoogleEarth and looking for decommissioned
aircraft carriers.

I have only found one, CV-66, at Philadelphia. Where were the others kept?



D

I drove down the West Side highway in Manhattan Tuesday Oct. 31, 2006,
and Intrepid was still at her regular pier. I think I heard something on
the radio about winds or some required dredging was the delay.
Jmceachen


Andrew Venor wrote:
DDAY wrote:
I've been playing around with GoogleEarth and looking for
decommissioned aircraft carriers.

I have only found one, CV-66, at Philadelphia. Where were the others
kept?

D

USS Hornet is in Alameda, California. You can find USS Midway in Google
Earth a few miles away in Oakland. However the picture is a few years
old, because Midway is now located in downtown San Diego.

You can find USS Intrepid if you zoom in on the upper West side of
Manhattan. Though she was moved to a dry dock in New Jerry last week for
maintenance.

USS Lexington is a museum in Corpus Christi, Texas, and the USS Yorktown
is one in Charleston, South Carolina.

Other decommissioned US carriers can be found in Bremmerton, Washington,
and Newport, Road Island.

If you zoom in to Toulon, France you can see the Clemenceau. And if you
pan over to Portsmith, England you can see the HMS Invincible. Although
she is in reserve, not decommissioned.
ALV

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In article , "J.McEachen"
wrote:

I drove down the West Side highway in Manhattan Tuesday Oct. 31, 2006,
and Intrepid was still at her regular pier. I think I heard something on
the radio about winds or some required dredging was the delay.

Today's Washington Post says that she will be moved on Monday. She'll be
towed five miles and be under refurbishment for two years.

I read in a British aviation magazine that several things are happening.
The pier where she is moored is suffering structural problems. So the plan
is to rebuild the pier and also build internal display space for the
aircraft. This includes the Concorde, which is owned by British Airways and
loaned to the museum. Apparently one condition of the loan requires that
the internal cabin of the Concorde be climate controlled, and this is hard
to do when the plane itself is not under cover.

So they're going to do all of that, clean and paint the Intrepid, and then
reopen everything in 2008. Also, they may open more internal spaces on the
ship if they can.

I'm glad I found all this out, as I was planning on doing a trip up to NYC
this winter to see the ship.




D

"DDAY" wrote...
I've been playing around with GoogleEarth and looking for decommissioned
aircraft carriers.

I have only found one, CV-66, at Philadelphia. Where were the others
kept?

Bremerton, NYC, San Diego...

Probably a few other places.

Andrew Venor wrote:
USS Lexington is a museum in Corpus Christi, Texas,

I did a Boy Scouts camp onboard the Lexington a couple of years ago and
I was astonished at the poor material condition of that ship - it was
falling to pieces, passageways were filled with stagnant water, ****TY
food served by what appeared to be work-release convicts. In short, it
was extremely disappointing to see how poorly the CV was "preserved",
and I would suggest its not worth a trip to visit it in its current
condition. When we were aboard, the docent staff was almost entirely
former military, but only a couple were former Navy. This showed up
during tours, where I and other tourists kept catching the docents
giving out inaccurate information - another reason I was disappointed
in our visit.

The USS Midway is kept in fantastic condition by comparison. The
aircraft and ship are kept up and there is broad support in the San
Diego community to volunteer, visit, and contribute to its continued
success as a centerpiece to the local museums. It didn't appear that
the old Lex had any such support in Corpus.

v/r Gordon

SNIP

I did a Boy Scouts camp onboard the Lexington a couple of years ago and
I was astonished at the poor material condition of that ship - it was
falling to pieces, passageways were filled with stagnant water, ****TY
food served by what appeared to be work-release convicts. In short, it
was extremely disappointing to see how poorly the CV was "preserved",
and I would suggest its not worth a trip to visit it in its current
condition. When we were aboard, the docent staff was almost entirely
former military, but only a couple were former Navy. This showed up
during tours, where I and other tourists kept catching the docents
giving out inaccurate information - another reason I was disappointed
in our visit.

The USS Midway is kept in fantastic condition by comparison. The
aircraft and ship are kept up and there is broad support in the San
Diego community to volunteer, visit, and contribute to its continued
success as a centerpiece to the local museums. It didn't appear that
the old Lex had any such support in Corpus.

Some of this might be a function of cumulative neglect. I was always
surprised by the disparity of material condition and cleanliness of the
ships I cruised and/or visited (CQ evolutions). Oriskany was in pretty nice
shape till the day they parked her. Ranger was somewhat disappointing,
Independence was very disappointing.

Midway was cared for by the Yokosuka shipyard for a number of years.
Allegedly, she was in prime shape even though she saw considerable service.
By comparison her sisters were not-so-good. Coral Maru wasn't prime and FDR
(this based on friends who enjoyed her hospitality) deserved her moniker
"Filthy, Dirty, Rusty."

R / John

DDAY wrote:
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In article , "J.McEachen"
wrote:

I drove down the West Side highway in Manhattan Tuesday Oct. 31, 2006,
and Intrepid was still at her regular pier. I think I heard something on
the radio about winds or some required dredging was the delay.

Today's Washington Post says that she will be moved on Monday. She'll be
towed five miles and be under refurbishment for two years.

CNN just reported that she's gotten stuck...props are in the mud, I
don't think she's even really moved away from the pier much at all.

a few yards...the props got stuck in the mud....divers will have to go
down and take
a "looksie"...




On Nov 6, 9:01 am, "Jeb Hoge" wrote:
DDAY wrote:
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In article , "J.McEachen"
wrote:

I drove down the West Side highway in Manhattan Tuesday Oct. 31, 2006,
and Intrepid was still at her regular pier. I think I heard something on
the radio about winds or some required dredging was the delay.

Today's Washington Post says that she will be moved on Monday. She'll be
towed five miles and be under refurbishment for two years.CNN just reported that she's gotten stuck...props are in the mud, I
don't think she's even really moved away from the pier much at all.

USS Ranger is in Portland Oregon......

USS Lexington is in Corpus Christi TX




"DDAY" wrote in message
nk.net...
I've been playing around with GoogleEarth and looking for decommissioned
aircraft carriers.

I have only found one, CV-66, at Philadelphia. Where were the others
kept?



D