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Old October 13th 06, 09:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gary Drescher
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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The video he
http://www.emailthis.clickability.co...0316119&p t=Y
or if that link doesn't work for you, the video at the link labeled
'New York crash location' located on the lower left corner of this
page: http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/11/plane.crash/index.html ,
indicates the flight descended from 1,500' to 400' during a 180 degree
turn.


He couldn't have been at 1500' there without busting Class B. He flew up the
river at 700':
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/13/nyregion/13crash.html

I find it difficult to believe, that a pilot intent on compliance with
regulations would intentionally descend into the 'canyon' of buildings
prior to attempting a 180 degree turn there.


What's the regulatory difficulty?

--Gary


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Old October 13th 06, 11:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Gideon
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Default Airplane in NYC is a Cirrus SR20

On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:06:57 -0400, Gary Drescher wrote:

I've long wondered about whether "congested area" applies when one is
over a river. That's not congested. It is next to a congested area,
but it itself is rather sparsely populated.


I've wondered about that too. But If it were construed to apply when
you're over a river, then flight up the Hudson VFR corridor would be
illegal--you can't get over the Verrazano or George Washington bridge
under the Class E ceiling without coming within 2000' horizontally of the
bridge towers, flying less than 1000' above the tower tops.


So you're suggesting that, even if the river weren't congested, the
bridges are? That's not a point I'd considered.

What an overused term to not have a strict definition.

- Andrew

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Old October 14th 06, 12:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gary Drescher
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Default Airplane in NYC is a Cirrus SR20

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:06:57 -0400, Gary Drescher wrote:

I've long wondered about whether "congested area" applies when one is
over a river. That's not congested. It is next to a congested area,
but it itself is rather sparsely populated.


I've wondered about that too. But If it were construed to apply when
you're over a river, then flight up the Hudson VFR corridor would be
illegal--you can't get over the Verrazano or George Washington bridge
under the Class E ceiling without coming within 2000' horizontally of the
bridge towers, flying less than 1000' above the tower tops.


So you're suggesting that, even if the river weren't congested, the
bridges are? That's not a point I'd considered.


No, just the opposite--my point is that the river (including the bridge) is
not regarded as a congested area, or overflying the bridges in the VFR
corridor would be illegal (which obviously is not how it's construed).
Having to stay 500' from structures, though, applies everywhere.

What an overused term to not have a strict definition.


Yup.

--Gary


 




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