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Old May 28th 18, 07:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I purchased a glider. FAA registration was done with the FAA bill of sale, had no problem. The trailer and the glider are in Pennsylvania, have no license plate and have only a 10 years old registration from Florida. It never accrued to me that my Indiana state license office will not accept the FAA bill of sale for the license plate application. Good lesson to you all, to have a separate bill of sale from your own state’s official motor vehicle form. Now, I have to chase the seller from overseas to sign a new form. However, there are more issues. This trailer never had a title being registered in Florida and Indiana will not issue a new license plate without a title and that local bill of sale. Many things could be done if the trailer would be back in my home state. I am trying to tow the trailer home soon and not hand it over to a commercial shipper. You guys must know something how to get a temporary sticker or something from PA. Do I need a temp travel pass from each state that I will cross? How does this work?
Thank you for your time!
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Old May 28th 18, 07:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 1:49:13 PM UTC-5, PapaTango of Indiana wrote:
I purchased a glider. FAA registration was done with the FAA bill of sale, had no problem. The trailer and the glider are in Pennsylvania, have no license plate and have only a 10 years old registration from Florida. It never accrued to me that my Indiana state license office will not accept the FAA bill of sale for the license plate application. Good lesson to you all, to have a separate bill of sale from your own state’s official motor vehicle form. Now, I have to chase the seller from overseas to sign a new form. However, there are more issues. This trailer never had a title being registered in Florida and Indiana will not issue a new license plate without a title and that local bill of sale. Many things could be done if the trailer would be back in my home state. I am trying to tow the trailer home soon and not hand it over to a commercial shipper. You guys must know something how to get a temporary sticker or something from PA. Do I need a temp travel pass from each state that I will cross? How does this work?
Thank you for your time!


Can't you register it as a 'new' home built trailer?
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Old May 28th 18, 08:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 2:54:23 PM UTC-4, Tom BravoMike wrote:
On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 1:49:13 PM UTC-5, PapaTango of Indiana wrote:
I purchased a glider. FAA registration was done with the FAA bill of sale, had no problem. The trailer and the glider are in Pennsylvania, have no license plate and have only a 10 years old registration from Florida. It never accrued to me that my Indiana state license office will not accept the FAA bill of sale for the license plate application. Good lesson to you all, to have a separate bill of sale from your own state’s official motor vehicle form. Now, I have to chase the seller from overseas to sign a new form. However, there are more issues. This trailer never had a title being registered in Florida and Indiana will not issue a new license plate without a title and that local bill of sale. Many things could be done if the trailer would be back in my home state. I am trying to tow the trailer home soon and not hand it over to a commercial shipper. You guys must know something how to get a temporary sticker or something from PA. Do I need a temp travel pass from each state that I will cross? How does this work?
Thank you for your time!


Can't you register it as a 'new' home built trailer?


That was my back up plan. For home build trailers the state (IN)) require a new vin number application and install, a new "court order title, (timely), an official state scale to verify the weight, and a on site inspection by the police. I have to do all these things after I got the trailer back in state.
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Old May 28th 18, 09:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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My Alberta vehicle and driver registry suggested that they would give me a trailer plate once the selling owner faxed me a bill of sale, which they did. I also had the selling owner contact the original owner to supply a bill of sale (notarized) so that I had a chain of title crossing into Canada.

That did not prevent certain Canada Customs officers from throwing a hissy fit. To their great disappointment the VIN for the plate matched the VIN on the trailer.

Oh yes, the plate on the trailer came from a souvenir shop. The myth was that it was "agricultural equipment" not needing a plate. Will your friendly highway trooper swallow that or call in a flatbed?

Some states have trailer titles and others don't. Some states offer in transit permits and others make it difficult, if not practically impossible, for private parties.

If you do get an in transit permit, it's generally good anywhere in the US and Canada.

If PA won't give you one, maybe a bordering state would.

Moving from Ontario with a newly acquired car on a 10 day temporary permit, I had to get another temporary permit in Manitoba on the way to Alberta.

Good Luck!
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Old May 28th 18, 10:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Michigan will issue a PERMANENT plate (around $70) to non-residents. Cost based on weight (so empty everything out) and get certified weight ticket. Then register it as a home built.Check MI Sec of State website for details.

Personally, no one every looks a trailer plates so go get the glider and deal with the plates later.I drive my camper around with out plates all the (don't keep plates on camper as they were stolen once. Some states do not even require plates on non-com trailers. a real mish-mash or laws. (Like KS has no registration as long as loaded trailer is under 2000 lb)
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Old May 28th 18, 11:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Your bill of sale is good to get your glider home, just make sure it's insured along with the glider.
GB
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Old May 28th 18, 11:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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And if you’re lucky and have two.........only need one plate......to help the revenuers with less paperwork.
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Old May 29th 18, 12:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 6:32:33 PM UTC-4, Retting wrote:
And if you’re lucky and have two.........only need one plate.......to help the revenuers with less paperwork.


The problem with using one plate on two trailers in Michigan anyway is when the cop checks the serial ## on the manufactures plate, right front side of trailer. If it doesn't match the registration ## they will take that plate = $75 Plus a $150 dollar fine, now you have to replace that plate $75 then buy another plate $75. So that's $350 if he didn't have your trailer towed away to a storage yard you are lucky. The other thing is your insurance wont cover your trailer if its not your trailer, hence your correct registration.
That happened to my buddy and his boat trailer. So now I have now bought plates for all 12 of my trailers, yes 12. But now I'm a legal boy scout.
Glen
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Old May 29th 18, 11:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Two trailers...data plates....2 rivets.....drill.....2 screws.......
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Old May 29th 18, 11:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 6:27:32 PM UTC-4, Retting wrote:
Two trailers...data plates....2 rivets.....drill.....2 screws.......


6 trailers
All "homebuilt"
4 homebuilt by Cobra
1 By Eberle
1 by Schweizer
4 plates
All New Jersey cares about is getting the sales tax.
Done
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