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"Bill Daniels" wrote in message news:OaAbd.258002$3l3.231270@attbi_s03... For example: 1. Keep the dead wood cleared by requiring that every officer and board member will have flown every glider as in the club fleet solo within the preceding 12 months. Failure to do so will be considered a letter of resignation. (This, at least, proves they CAN fly. It also requires that an instructor certify them competent in the club fleet.) Whether the officials have or not current flying qualification doesn't necessarily correlate the way the club is operated. Our president has flown alone in sixties after which he had to end because of health reasons and our secretary haven't ever had a license, as a matter of fact he just happened to come and see a competition we had and after seeing him there for three days a row our president just asked if he might as well participate in the competition organisation. Neither has ever been any hinder to anybodys flying, were it cross-country or not. As a matter of fact, I normally call him before going cross-country and ask, if he can come to rescue me in case of outlanding So, I'd oppose this rule as an absolute rule. I also know about some clubs headed by "current" pilots that basically look after their own flying and even erstrict others to have the club ship available and not broken... As a summary: it depends hannu |
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mat Redsell wrote:
Thanks for all of the good responses to my original quesiton on Cross Country... unfortunately the board members have decided to eject me from the club if I partipate any more in this discussion online. Please send me personal emails in future. -mat Welcome to the club I'm already ejected from a club mainly because I wrote about the strange internal affairs of that club on the net... Now I'm a happy member of another club (and a third one also)! Feel free to move on! My previous club also forced our planes (new club's) out of the hangar in middle of winter (I suspect partly because I joined that club). Of course I created a "nice" page with full of pictures (empty hangar opposite the wet place where we had to store our gliders...) and we were allowed to move back. Don't underestimate the power of publicity It's sad... /Janos |
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....An airport is a public use airport, an airfield or airstrip is not public use but is intended for aircraft, and an "outlanding" is anything that isn't an airport or airstrip. I once landed a glider on a sod farm that was smoother and at least as level as the field I took off from. Does that count? :-) Tony V. |
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"Bert Willing" wrote in message ...
Landing on an airfield is not outlanding. What we refer to as outlanding typically in Europe is 1000ft (if lucky) of unknown pasture. -- Bert Willing ASW20 "TW" For me a landout, or outlanding, is any landing that was not at the intended goal. I log both landouts and off airport landouts. Over 90% of my flying is contests so any time I don't make it back to the finish gate I landed out. The only exception to that is if I land at the contest site without completing the task. I don't consider that a landout. Non-contest pilots may have a different perspective Andy |
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Tony Verhulst wrote:
....An airport is a public use airport, an airfield or airstrip is not public use but is intended for aircraft, and an "outlanding" is anything that isn't an airport or airstrip. I once landed a glider on a sod farm that was smoother and at least as level as the field I took off from. Does that count? :-) Sure! I say any field not examined and selected in advance counts as an outlanding. In our area, the farm fields are typically a mile square, soft powdery dirt, and safer to land on than a runway. Why? You can always land into the wind, there is no other traffic, and forgetting to lower your gear doesn't result in any damage. It IS very inconvenient, however. -- Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA |
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Now I'm a happy member of another club (and a third one also)! Feel
free to move on! /Janos I'm was extremely pleased with the first club I joined mainly perhaps because I spent a lot of time researching what club to join. Yes, my main club is 100nm and a 3 hour drive from my house, but I wanted a low key club with few restrictions, very available gliders, low cost, and encouraging for X-C. There was another option closer, but I didn't see a benefit for me at the time of the higher cost, lower availability, closer location, nicer aircraft. I'm fortunate to have three outstanding (each in their own way) glider clubs and one commercial operator within 100nm. I chose one because it suited my X-C desires more closely, and I was able to be part of a wonderful sub-group in that club. For those who are having trouble, I hope you've shopped around a bit, and perhaps accepted the idea that you may need to drive a bit further away to find an atmosphere that is compatible... -- ------------+ Mark J. Boyd |
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Mark James Boyd wrote:
There was another option closer, but I didn't see a benefit for me at the time of the higher cost, lower availability, closer location, nicer aircraft. I learned that low cost often means: no parachute, no fuel for tow plane or winch, no instrument, no trailer, no tow vehicle, no spare parts etc-etc. When I suggested to increase the membership fees suddenly became an enemy of the members... I also visit a commercial operator and it's good to get what you pay for. Of course they can't provide the same feeling of a self serving club, but could be a good extension. All sailplanes equipped with good instruments, new parachute, logger. You can fly high performance gliders, even Discus2! /Janos |
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In article ,
Janos Bauer wrote: Mark James Boyd wrote: There was another option closer, but I didn't see a benefit for me at the time of the higher cost, lower availability, closer location, nicer aircraft. I learned that low cost often means: no parachute, no fuel for tow plane or winch, no instrument, no trailer, no tow vehicle, no spare parts etc-etc. When I suggested to increase the membership fees suddenly became an enemy of the members... Absolutely correct. Higher cost = more stuff. It sounds like your club is at the low cost/minimal features price point. I also visit a commercial operator and it's good to get what you pay for. Of course they can't provide the same feeling of a self serving club, but could be a good extension. All sailplanes equipped with good instruments, new parachute, logger. You can fly high performance gliders, even Discus2! Yes, this is true here as well. And just like going to the Spa instead of bathing in my own tub, I occasionally pay a bit more and enjoy the luxuries. /Janos -- ------------+ Mark J. Boyd |
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