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Nice one Art- amazing how these academic idiots decide to ignore the rest of
history. Adjusting reality to suit their own purposes methinks. Cheers Mad Jock |
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ArtKramr wrote:
: Nothing to say about the Holocaust. The rape of Nanking, The Bataan death : march, Pearl Harbor? Those seem 100% irrelevant to me in this debate. We are talking here about warfare, not justice. -- Emmanuel Gustin |
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Subject: Enola Gay: Burnt flesh and other magnificent technological
From: "Emmanuel.Gustin" Date: 12/14/03 4:36 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: ArtKramr wrote: : Nothing to say about the Holocaust. The rape of Nanking, The Bataan death : march, Pearl Harbor? Those seem 100% irrelevant to me in this debate. We are talking here about warfare, not justice. -- Emmanuel Gustin Bombing the enemy is a legitimate part of warfare. Raping civilians and beheading PW's is not. We fought the war with honor. Japan fought the war without honor. You decide what is relevant to you. I'll decide what is relevant to me. Regards, Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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On 14 Dec 2003 12:36:14 GMT, "Emmanuel.Gustin" wrote:
ArtKramr wrote: : Nothing to say about the Holocaust. The rape of Nanking, The Bataan death : march, Pearl Harbor? Those seem 100% irrelevant to me in this debate. We are talking here about warfare, not justice. The decision to use the bombs was made much easier by the depraved, despicable acts of the Japanese. Al Minyard |
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(B2431) wrote:
From: (KEV OF BBA) Nice one Art- amazing how these academic idiots decide to ignore the rest of history. Adjusting reality to suit their own purposes methinks. Cheers Mad Jock Firstly, let me say I know the atomic bombings were absolutely necessary. Secondly, an academic excercise such as discussing the bombings as a way to end the war can exclude the atrocities Art mentioned. I just wish most of said academics would not count only American lives. They should count Japanese, Chinese and Soviet( in China) lives as well as Soviet expansion into nothern Japan proper. Thirdly, let me say such academic excercises are nice diversions but they have no relevance to reality. And, lastly, it is a good thing such discussions between the pro-bombing and anti-bombing factions exist, I just wish they would not extend to a museum display that should remain politically neutral. Put the airplane there with a sign saying something like this: This B-29 dropped the first atomic bomb ever used in anger. Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired Of course...and for Christ's sake don't add "...and it was a very bad thing"... -Gord. "I'm trying to get as old as I can, and it must be working 'cause I'm the oldest now that I've ever been" |
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"Gord Beaman" wrote in message ... snip of idiot gibbering Of course...and for Christ's sake don't add "...and it was a very bad thing"... It was a very bad thing. Pandora's box can never be closed again. |
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:
"Gord Beaman" wrote in message .. . snip of idiot gibbering Of course...and for Christ's sake don't add "...and it was a very bad thing"... It was a very bad thing. Pandora's box can never be closed again. Well John, it's quite likely that someone said exactly that when the very first charge of gunpowder was ignited. And likely again when the first arrow left it's bowstring...the first club connected with someone's skull...etc... -Gord. "I'm trying to get as old as I can, and it must be working 'cause I'm the oldest now that I've ever been" |
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"Gord Beaman" wrote in message ... "Tarver Engineering" wrote: "Gord Beaman" wrote in message .. . snip of idiot gibbering Of course...and for Christ's sake don't add "...and it was a very bad thing"... It was a very bad thing. Pandora's box can never be closed again. Well John, it's quite likely that someone said exactly that when the very first charge of gunpowder was ignited. And likely again when the first arrow left it's bowstring...the first club connected with someone's skull...etc... Are you sure that wasn't Tarver's skull that it connected with? That might explain a few things... Brooks -Gord. "I'm trying to get as old as I can, and it must be working 'cause I'm the oldest now that I've ever been" |
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