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"TripFarmer" wrote in message
... If I own a corporate plane I want the most qualified person flying for me I can find. Not everyone shares that approach. One reason I don't ride on buses. Drivers are usually a $7 per hour person. I won't trust my life to that person. Probably not a bad idea. You're right, they aren't the best drivers in the world (and my opinion of them is even lower since I got rear-ended by a full-size bus a few months ago). But again, not everyone shares that approach. None of that has anything to do with a pilot flying for no pay, other than perhaps the fact that YOU wouldn't allow a pilot to fly for no pay (and honestly, just because the pilot is willing to fly for no pay, that doesn't mean they're unqualified). Pete |
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"Peter Duniho" wrote: None of that has anything to do with a pilot flying for no pay, other than perhaps the fact that YOU wouldn't allow a pilot to fly for no pay (and honestly, just because the pilot is willing to fly for no pay, that doesn't mean they're unqualified). My question about this situation would be whether or not the pilot in question has actually been trained and certified to act as a required crewmember under part 135. If they're not going to pay the pilot, are they going to take the time and go to the expense and trouble of training that pilot? Part 135 training is not trivial, although someone could certainly make it so. The company's FAA-approved training manual outlines the number of hours of ground training required, as well as the flight training requirements. After that, there is a checkride with either a company check airman or FAA inspector. Then there is annual recurrent training and a checkride (for SICs - PICs get semi-annual checkrides). This all costs something. If the company needs the pilot, they ought to be paying the pilot. If they're skimping on their pilots and taking whoever will work for free, what else are they skimping on? I would guess that what's really going on is that the pilot is "riding along for experience" and flying any empty legs that can be flown under part 91. -- Larry Fransson Aviation software for Mac OS X! http://www.subcritical.com |
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"Ditch" wrote in message ... Argh. This always gets me. It's one thing to pay for training. It's another thing entirely to work for free. To do that is to completely devalue your skills. That, and it puts a working pilot out of a job. She should be shot. Work for nothing? That's nothing. You can buy the right seat on Alpine Air's Beech 99's. |
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"Mark" wrote in message om... "Tom S." wrote in message ... "Larry Fransson" wrote in message ... I'd also like to know where Kit Darby (Air, Inc. - aka www.jet-jobs.com) is getting his information. Probably the same place that Monster.com gets theirs. :~) (According to a WSJ report about 18 months ago, only about 1.1% of jobs are filled through Monster.com; other are far less. Many jobs are recycled weekly for over a year and resumes end up in the hands of spammers). He's putting ads out there saying that hundreds of airlines are looking to hire 7000+ pilots in 2003. I'm not sure I see that, but whatever. Sounds like Darby is a "Legend In His Own Mind". Tom Sorry to get off topic, but this is VERY true about Monster. Since the sub-tpoic was "web sites for piloting jobs", I'd say that corelations to job sites in general is right on topic....but that's just me. I know for a fact that many employers use Monster to advertise a job when they know they will never fill that positon. The reason (again this is first hand info) is they have someone on the inside of the company applying for the position but to satisify some legal rule they must offer it to "outsiders" first. And many are "window shopping" to see how much they can get away with. A more comon reason the company i work for uses Monster is to get a green card for non-american. In order for them to get a green card and work in the US, they have to prove that they are not taking a job away from a qualified american worker. So they advertise the job on Monster with an add reading somthing like, "...needing 10 years programming experience in c, c++, Basic, Fortran, Cobal, Pascal with 5 years project management experience while working with some no named programming language...". Basicially, whenever you read a job add that makes you say "Who would EVER have that combination of experience", it's a job they are trying to justify to give to someone they already have hired. Or want to hire. Same thing with pilots. Again, sorry to get off topic.. Oh and yes, Monster is a place to get good e-mail addresses for SPAM! |
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"Larry Fransson" wrote in message
... [...] If the company needs the pilot, they ought to be paying the pilot. If they're skimping on their pilots and taking whoever will work for free, what else are they skimping on? All fair questions. I'm just questioning the automatic hostility that this pilot has received in absentia. I would guess that what's really going on is that the pilot is "riding along for experience" and flying any empty legs that can be flown under part 91. Could very well be. Even more reason for folks to not judge her so harshly. Pete |
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Mark wrote: Sorry to get off topic, but this is VERY true about Monster. Can you recommend a better job-finder? George Patterson Brute force has an elegance all its own. |
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message ... Mark wrote: Sorry to get off topic, but this is VERY true about Monster. Can you recommend a better job-finder? Any board whose list is only 95% bogus, instead of 98%. |
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