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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... ubject: Countering Widespread Ignorance About the National Guard From: "Ragnar" Date: 3/1/04 6:44 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "Tex Houston" wrote in message ... "Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ... Thank you John. Friends are hard to find around here. (sigh) If you just stopped lying, and started admitting when you had screwed the pooch (i.e., the whole "Guard was back home while we did the fightin'" crap) you'd have more friends. Continuing to deny reality after you have been corrected by umpteen other posters does little to enamor the average poster. Brooks Neither of you are exactly covering yourselves with glory in this ****ing match. Both of you are splashing yourselves AND the bystanders. A pox on both your houses! Anyone else feel the same way? Actually, it would be a pox on Art's house. Art has lied and been caught out by Kevin. Its quite entertaining. And exactly what was that lie ****head? Well, just to specify the *last* lie you uttered, it would be your continued assertions, despite repeated corrections from numerous posters, that Guard units were still sitting around their armories during WWII (when in fact the ENTIRE National Guard had been serving on active duty since spring 1941 at the latest, with some units having actually reported in during 1940), that they were the "laughingstock" of fellows like you (despite the fact that many Guard units had been in *combat* for almost two years before you even put on a uniform), etc. After that, we have to delve into your recent statement that you recieved a call-up notice on your eighteenth birthday, leading to the question of just how much of a "volunteer" you actually were. And BTW, these claims of yours that the only way to get into the USAAF and into a flight crew was by volunteering? More false claims from Art-- as verified by the following: The USAF's Air University resources include reference to the fact that the majority of the USAAF medics came from the draft pool ( www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/afhistory/ aaf_medical_services_wwii.pdf ) As to flight personnel, we have: "The search for qualified pilots intensified in 1942. Early on, the Ferrying Command scoured the country for all available civilian fliers; bush pilots, test pilots, crop dusters, stunt pilots, barnstormers, and pilots who flew on personal business or for fun all became candidates. These draftees were expected to have five hundred hours of flying experience, a requirement that soon dropped to two hundred to three hundred hours, depending on the military's need. If they could pass a ninety-day probation period, they became commissioned officers. By the end of 1942, a total of 1,372 pilots had been commissioned, but the AAF's own flight-training programs began to replace these conscripts after that date." http://www.usaaf.net/ww2/airlift/airliftpg3.htm Brooks Arthur Kramer |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Countering Widespread Ignorance About the National Guard From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 3/1/04 7:52 PM Pacific Standard Time You are so ****ing stupid and ignorant. YOu can't be drafted into Air Crew or into the Air Cadet Corps. It is 100% a volunteer service, How stupid can you be? Your ignorance is appalling. Uhmm..you were the one who specifically stated you received your call-up notice on your eighteenth birthday, and have at the same time repeatedly claimed to have volunteered for service (not just for flight duty). So what's the story (this time)? You got your notice and high tailed it to the recruiting office in order to stay one-step ahead of serving in the infantry, or what? Brooks Your lack of military experience is turning you into a bigger fool than ever.. fool. You were obviously drafted since oyu never volunteered for anything where you might get hurt. I guess you are the Ohio Coward. Right? Geeze, you are just not right in the head. What is this fascination with Ohio you seem to have? I believe I have spent a grand total of two nights in that state--one during the funeral we performed (the one I have repeatedly told you was my only military duty in that state), and a second when I went to the museum at Wright Pat. And no, I, like every other post-Vietnam servicemember, was not drafted--the draft was history in 1973, when I was all of eleven years old. I did volunteer--without benefit of having received a draft notice to force me into doing that. Your rants are getting more and more outlandish...and they still never answer the questions posed to you. I wonder why... is the truth a bit too close for comfort? Brooks Arthur Kramer |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Countering Widespread Ignorance About the National Guard From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 3/1/04 7:52 PM Pacific Standard Time You are so ****ing stupid and ignorant. YOu can't be drafted into Air Crew or into the Air Cadet Corps. It is 100% a volunteer service, How stupid can you be? Your ignorance is appalling. Uhmm..you were the one who specifically stated you received your call-up notice on your eighteenth birthday, and have at the same time repeatedly claimed to have volunteered for service (not just for flight duty). So what's the story (this time)? You got your notice and high tailed it to the recruiting office in order to stay one-step ahead of serving in the infantry, or what? Brooks Your lack of military experience is turning you into a bigger fool than ever.. fool. You were obviously drafted since oyu never volunteered for anything where you might get hurt. I guess you are the Ohio Coward. Right? Art, why not just answer the question? |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... ubject: Countering Widespread Ignorance About the National Guard From: "Ragnar" Date: 3/1/04 6:44 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "Tex Houston" wrote in message ... "Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ... Thank you John. Friends are hard to find around here. (sigh) If you just stopped lying, and started admitting when you had screwed the pooch (i.e., the whole "Guard was back home while we did the fightin'" crap) you'd have more friends. Continuing to deny reality after you have been corrected by umpteen other posters does little to enamor the average poster. Brooks Neither of you are exactly covering yourselves with glory in this ****ing match. Both of you are splashing yourselves AND the bystanders. A pox on both your houses! Anyone else feel the same way? Actually, it would be a pox on Art's house. Art has lied and been caught out by Kevin. Its quite entertaining. And exactly what was that lie ****head? Such language! When did I ever call you names? As for the lies, you could easily read them all in Kevin's post. You did read it, didn't you? |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Countering Widespread Ignorance About the National Guard From: "Tex Houston" 777 Date: 3/1/04 5:24 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ... Thank you John. Friends are hard to find around here. (sigh) If you just stopped lying, and started admitting when you had screwed the pooch (i.e., the whole "Guard was back home while we did the fightin'" crap) you'd have more friends. Continuing to deny reality after you have been corrected by umpteen other posters does little to enamor the average poster. Brooks Neither of you are exactly covering yourselves with glory in this ****ing match. Both of you are splashing yourselves AND the bystanders. A pox on both your houses! Anyone else feel the same way? Regards, Tex Houston For months I took his lying **** and never said a word. Now I am tired of taking his crap. And the free ride of that lying **** is over. Then point out where he lied. Was it about the National Guard being in Federal Service by 1941? |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Countering Widespread Ignorance About the National Guard From: "Ragnar" Date: 3/2/04 12:24 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Countering Widespread Ignorance About the National Guard From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 3/1/04 7:52 PM Pacific Standard Time You are so ****ing stupid and ignorant. YOu can't be drafted into Air Crew or into the Air Cadet Corps. It is 100% a volunteer service, How stupid can you be? Your ignorance is appalling. Uhmm..you were the one who specifically stated you received your call-up notice on your eighteenth birthday, and have at the same time repeatedly claimed to have volunteered for service (not just for flight duty). So what's the story (this time)? You got your notice and high tailed it to the recruiting office in order to stay one-step ahead of serving in the infantry, or what? Brooks Your lack of military experience is turning you into a bigger fool than ever.. fool. You were obviously drafted since oyu never volunteered for anything where you might get hurt. I guess you are the Ohio Coward. Right? Art, why not just answer the question? What question asshole? Again with the namecalling. Is that all you can do? One would think a man of your years and alleged experiences would be more mature. As for the question, you read Kevin's post and know the question. Just answer it and end the silliness. |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Countering Widespread Ignorance About the National Guard From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 3/1/04 7:52 PM Pacific Standard Time You are so ****ing stupid and ignorant. YOu can't be drafted into Air Crew or into the Air Cadet Corps. It is 100% a volunteer service, How stupid can you be? Your ignorance is appalling. Uhmm..you were the one who specifically stated you received your call-up notice on your eighteenth birthday, and have at the same time repeatedly claimed to have volunteered for service (not just for flight duty). So what's the story (this time)? You got your notice and high tailed it to the recruiting office in order to stay one-step ahead of serving in the infantry, or what? Brooks Your lack of military experience is turning you into a bigger fool than ever.. fool. You were obviously drafted since oyu never volunteered for anything where you might get hurt. I guess you are the Ohio Coward. Right? Art, why not just answer the question? I can't (and won't) speak for Art, but thinking back to those days, a lot of people did exactly that. When their draft notices arrived in the mail, they made a beeline down to one of the recruiting stations and signed up for anything but the Army's infantry. That's the way it worked, and nobody criticized it at the time. Personally, I never waited for the notice to arrive; it was going to inevitably anyhow. As soon as I finished my junior year in college, I hightailed it down to the recruiting office and signed up for the Aviation Cadet program. George Z. |
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"Ragnar" wrote in message ... "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Countering Widespread Ignorance About the National Guard From: "Ragnar" Date: 3/2/04 12:24 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Countering Widespread Ignorance About the National Guard From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 3/1/04 7:52 PM Pacific Standard Time You are so ****ing stupid and ignorant. YOu can't be drafted into Air Crew or into the Air Cadet Corps. It is 100% a volunteer service, How stupid can you be? Your ignorance is appalling. Uhmm..you were the one who specifically stated you received your call-up notice on your eighteenth birthday, and have at the same time repeatedly claimed to have volunteered for service (not just for flight duty). So what's the story (this time)? You got your notice and high tailed it to the recruiting office in order to stay one-step ahead of serving in the infantry, or what? Brooks Your lack of military experience is turning you into a bigger fool than ever.. fool. You were obviously drafted since oyu never volunteered for anything where you might get hurt. I guess you are the Ohio Coward. Right? Art, why not just answer the question? What question asshole? Again with the namecalling. Is that all you can do? One would think a man of your years and alleged experiences would be more mature. As for the question, you read Kevin's post and know the question. Just answer it and end the silliness. Because it is apparently another one of those questions that he can't answer, as it would demonstrate that his past repeated claims that he was purely a volunteer for service were as lacking in truthfulness as some of his other rants. Art, as you know, has a long history of ignoring those questions that are problematic and instead leaping into baseless mudslinging. Brooks |
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ubject: Countering Widespread Ignorance About the National Guard
From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 3/2/04 5:41 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "Ragnar" wrote in message ... "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Countering Widespread Ignorance About the National Guard From: "Ragnar" Date: 3/2/04 12:24 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Countering Widespread Ignorance About the National Guard From: "Kevin Brooks" Date: 3/1/04 7:52 PM Pacific Standard Time You are so ****ing stupid and ignorant. YOu can't be drafted into Air Crew or into the Air Cadet Corps. It is 100% a volunteer service, How stupid can you be? Your ignorance is appalling. Uhmm..you were the one who specifically stated you received your call-up notice on your eighteenth birthday, and have at the same time repeatedly claimed to have volunteered for service (not just for flight duty). So what's the story (this time)? You got your notice and high tailed it to the recruiting office in order to stay one-step ahead of serving in the infantry, or what? Brooks Your lack of military experience is turning you into a bigger fool than ever.. fool. You were obviously drafted since oyu never volunteered for anything where you might get hurt. I guess you are the Ohio Coward. Right? Art, why not just answer the question? What question asshole? Again with the namecalling. Is that all you can do? One would think a man of your years and alleged experiences would be more mature. As for the question, you read Kevin's post and know the question. Just answer it and end the silliness. Because it is apparently another one of those questions that he can't answer, as it would demonstrate that his past repeated claims that he was purely a volunteer for service were as lacking in truthfulness as some of his other rants. Art, as you know, has a long history of ignoring those questions that are problematic and instead leaping into baseless mudslinging. Brooks And exacrtly what is the lie you alledge I told liar? You still refuse to post it liar. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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