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Why an Egret & an XB-70 are simular (1/1)
"Ron Monroe" wrote in message ...
The crash occured long after the B-70 was canceled.They started cutting back the program before the first one ever flew.This was during the Macnamara years, which also contributed. There was an attempt to build a third aircraft, and, I believe they had already cut metal, before that, too was canceled. Now, there's a thought, a B-70 with a tail hook for the USN, exponential commonality. They were also trying to convert the mission from a supersonic bomber to a supersonic reconaissance/strike aircraft. It would go in after any strike was made, recon, and, if any target was left, take it out. The new designation was to be RS-70. This too was killed. Ron Maybe it's different in the rest of the world, but in Australia, calling anything 'RS' it the kiss of death™ "tony.anquetil" wrote in message ... XB70 never entered in production due to : a.. the development of accurate intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM), or their maritime counterparts submarine launched ballistic missiles (SLBM), b.. the development of efficient Soviet surface-to-air missiles (SAM) and the MiG25 FOXBAT interceptor, able to hit bombers flying at high altitude and high speed (see the number of U2 spyplanes shot down), c.. high development costs, during the Vietnam war-era, d.. a crash, e.. lobbying, f.. other reasons I don't remember. Sorry for my syntax, grammar and poor vocabulary. I'm French but I try to improve my English/American. I'm ready to discuss about aeronautical subjects with anybody : I'm a pilot officer stored in a awful headquarter office. Please, help me! There's a breakout after lights-out, pass it on. -- Cheers Dave Kearton |
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Why an Egret & an XB-70 are simular (1/1)
Norm DePlume wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:36:02 GMT, "HEMI-Powered" wrote: Greg Farr added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... Attachment decoded: Great Egret landing 2.jpg ` Attachment decoded: XB-70.jpg I see your point, Greg, but the XB-70 is just a tad bigger! grin I remember looking at the one then outside of the Wright-Patterson AFB USAF Museum, circa 1986 or so. What a huge but beautiful bird! Not being a military aircraft guru at all, I never learned why the XB-70 was never developed or even tested beyond (I think) only 2 prototypes, but then, a lot of aircraft and other weapons never get developed or have a very short life. Hello, By the time she was ready to fly, her speed and altitude capabilities were insufficient to protect her from the, by then, improved Soviet surface-to-air missile capabilities. Additionally, the costs of production and operation were deemed excessive. Yes, only two were built, but the second crashed during testing, taking with her co-pilot Carl Cross and chase pilot Joe Walker. The crash was not the result of testing but a mishap during a aerial photo op when one of smaller planes of the formation collided with the XB-70. JT |
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Why an Egret & an XB-70 are simular (1/1)
"HEMI-Powered" wrote in news:Xns99CD6600E21BDReplyScoreID@
140.99.99.130: tony.anquetil added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... XB70 never entered in production due to : a.. the development of accurate intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM), or their maritime counterparts submarine launched ballistic missiles (SLBM), b.. the development of efficient Soviet surface-to-air missiles (SAM) and the MiG25 FOXBAT interceptor, able to hit bombers flying at high altitude and high speed (see the number of U2 spyplanes shot down), c.. high development costs, during the Vietnam war-era, d.. a crash, e.. lobbying, f.. other reasons I don't remember. Sorry for my syntax, grammar and poor vocabulary. I'm French but I try to improve my English/American. I'm ready to discuss about aeronautical subjects with anybody : I'm a pilot officer stored in a awful headquarter office. Please, help me! A second excellent info post! Thank you! And, I'm sorry, but I forgot to thank the other person who gave me a somewhat shorter version of the story. After reading these two replies, NOW I remember that the other prototype crashed, but even though I was old enough to be aware of all of this, I guess I was busy being a teen ager and didn't pay attention. And, now that I see it, my fading memory does recall the Francis Gary Powers U-2 incident in May, 1960 or thereabouts where the CIA and the USAF discovered to their sorrow that the Soviets were far more advanced with SAMs than they'd thought. Which, of course, prompted the development of the SR-71 Blackbird but that was strictly a spy plane and never modified for military use. Actually, there was some work on creating an interceptor variant of the A- 12 / SR-71 - the YF-12A http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/f12.html http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/n...-047-DFRC.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_YF-12 Later on, I recall a number of planes entering service either before or after the XB-70 such as the B-58 Hustler, the first supersonic bomber. But, I guess the development first of ICBMs and not long after Polaris submarines made bombers nearly obsolete. Except for the venerable Buff, the B-52. I heard recently that the Air Force expects to keep flying the 52 until something like 2030! Nowadays, ostensibly, the Cold War threat is over. It really isn't, but technocracy such as the B-2 stealth bomber seem to be the way to go. But, GAWD, that XB-70 is an awesomely beautiful HUGE bird! As for your language and syntax, you're better than most Americans. And, my respect and congrats for your service to your country. |
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Why an Egret & an XB-70 are simular (1/1)
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:53:39 GMT, Grumpy AuContraire
wrote: The crash was not the result of testing but a mishap during a aerial photo op when one of smaller planes of the formation collided with the XB-70. JT Quite true, although, to my mind, all official flights of pre-production aircraft are, albeit loosely, considered tests. |
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Why an Egret & an XB-70 are simular (1/1)
"Bob Harrington" schreef in bericht ... "HEMI-Powered" wrote in news:Xns99CD6600E21BDReplyScoreID@ SNIP Actually, there was some work on creating an interceptor variant of the A- 12 / SR-71 - the YF-12A SNIP The YF-12A never got beyond development work. It's missile system was later used by the Grumman Tomcat, though. Regards, Herman |
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Why an Egret & an XB-70 are simular (1/1)
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:13:58 -0700, redc1c4
wrote: Greg Farr wrote: [Image] [Image] [Image] well, we know which one is still in service..... redc1c4, (it carries a nasty payload too. %-) Yeah, usually found around lakes and ponds, some real stinky ****............... Greg http://gregsplace.50megs.com http://www.picturetrail.com/fugitive1 |
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