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  #51  
Old May 4th 08, 01:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Exactly. Stabilised approaches have their place, but tgeaching them to
the exclusion of all else is robbing the student.


Robbing the student of what?


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Old May 4th 08, 02:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote:

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Exactly. Stabilised approaches have their place, but tgeaching them to
the exclusion of all else is robbing the student.


Robbing the student of what?


Knowledge. How many "pilots" being "trained" in those pilot mills can
handle even a simple power-off landing?

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Old May 4th 08, 04:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in news:rUhTj.145$tM1.85
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Exactly. Stabilised approaches have their place, but tgeaching them to
the exclusion of all else is robbing the student.


Robbing the student of what?




Whoosh.

Bertie
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Old May 4th 08, 04:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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Orval Fairbairn wrote in
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In article ,
"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote:

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Exactly. Stabilised approaches have their place, but tgeaching them

to
the exclusion of all else is robbing the student.


Robbing the student of what?


Knowledge. How many "pilots" being "trained" in those pilot mills can
handle even a simple power-off landing?


Not many. It's been relegated to the area an extreme emergency wheras it
should be second nature.



Bertie
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Old May 4th 08, 05:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote:

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...

Exactly. Stabilised approaches have their place, but tgeaching them to
the exclusion of all else is robbing the student.


Robbing the student of what?


Knowledge. How many "pilots" being "trained" in those pilot mills can
handle even a simple power-off landing?


Ok, but how does the stabilized approached rob the student of that
knowledge?

Accepted traffic pattern and approach procedures do nothing to limit an
instructors ability to teach aircraft handling or dead stick landings.

If they are not teaching such, they themselves are robbing the student. It
has nothing to do with current landing procedures.



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Old May 4th 08, 05:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in news:rUhTj.145$tM1.85
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Exactly. Stabilised approaches have their place, but tgeaching them to
the exclusion of all else is robbing the student.


Robbing the student of what?




Whoosh.

Bertie


Wear ear muffs on windy days, and that won't happen.

Squirt, squirt.


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Old May 4th 08, 06:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote:

"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote:

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...

Exactly. Stabilised approaches have their place, but tgeaching them to
the exclusion of all else is robbing the student.


Robbing the student of what?


Knowledge. How many "pilots" being "trained" in those pilot mills can
handle even a simple power-off landing?


Ok, but how does the stabilized approached rob the student of that
knowledge?

Accepted traffic pattern and approach procedures do nothing to limit an
instructors ability to teach aircraft handling or dead stick landings.

If they are not teaching such, they themselves are robbing the student. It
has nothing to do with current landing procedures.


If a student is taught power-on approaches all the time, he won't know
how to approach an airport and do a power-off approach. I agree that
they are being robbed. In many cases, the instructors themselves are
simple regurgitating the same bad training that they themselves received.

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Old May 4th 08, 08:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in
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"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote:

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...

Exactly. Stabilised approaches have their place, but tgeaching
them to the exclusion of all else is robbing the student.


Robbing the student of what?


Knowledge. How many "pilots" being "trained" in those pilot mills can
handle even a simple power-off landing?


Ok, but how does the stabilized approached rob the student of that
knowledge?

Accepted traffic pattern and approach procedures do nothing to limit
an instructors ability to teach aircraft handling or dead stick
landings.

If they are not teaching such, they themselves are robbing the
student. It has nothing to do with current landing procedures.



Yes, it does.


Bertie

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Old May 4th 08, 08:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks
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"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in news:wblTj.690$hJ1.642
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...
"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in news:rUhTj.145$tM1.85
@newsfe20.lga:


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...

Exactly. Stabilised approaches have their place, but tgeaching them

to
the exclusion of all else is robbing the student.


Robbing the student of what?




Whoosh.

Bertie


Wear ear muffs on windy days, and that won't happen.

Squirt, squirt.



Whoosh. ~IKYABWAI boi.



Bertie
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Old May 4th 08, 08:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote:


Ok, but how does the stabilized approached rob the student of that
knowledge?

Accepted traffic pattern and approach procedures do nothing to limit an
instructors ability to teach aircraft handling or dead stick landings.

If they are not teaching such, they themselves are robbing the student.
It
has nothing to do with current landing procedures.


If a student is taught power-on approaches all the time, he won't know
how to approach an airport and do a power-off approach. I agree that
they are being robbed. In many cases, the instructors themselves are
simple regurgitating the same bad training that they themselves received.


Ok, but how does the stabilized approached rob the student of that
knowledge?




 




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